My favorite kitten is being harassed by an unidentified snake. If it's a good, golpher eating snake, that's cool but she's gotta know if it is poisonous or not!

Can someone please ID this viper for her?





Meow?

heeheeeheeee~~~~>

Weezie

With out being funny this time,
that is a big snake, I couldn't imagine
living in a place with the potential of
a snake that size.

Weezie

Thank you Bill....I don't like snakes.....he/she/it is approx. 6 ft. long and very pissed off now...he doesn't like the tip of his tail touched with a LONNNNNNg handled garden rake TWICE now.LOL Shooed him away once into the orange grove behind but he's baaaaaaccccckkkkk!!!! I don't like snakes!!!!

He was coming down my weed/gopher infested hill (anybody want some purslane or any other weed...plenty to go around...LOL)....I tried to direct him into the orchard the first time and he decided to climb into my smaller bouganvilla bush and hide for awhile....then I shooed him through the chainlink fence and now he is back.

I had a really nice looking black and yellow california king snake here last year...but I had the fire dept. come pick him up for relocation.
Did I forget to mention I don't like snakkkkkkkeeeeSSSSSS...

I am sooooooooooo embarassed!
golpher... g..o..l..p..h..e..r.. golpher!

I think.... HEY! It's been a verrrrry long week! :p

Sorry Bill, I just couldn't help myself..

I am really bad when it comes to spelling..
I spot `em a mile away...

And BTW, it's G~O~P~H~E~R...
(***Or is there a snake by that name
and I've never heard of it???***)

I know it's been a long week!!!
just couldn't help it....
I was picturing it eating those golfers...
Got a good giggle out of it!!!

Personally, I really hate snakes. I would bag that sucker and take him far far FAR away!!

Here is a picture of a gopher snake. It looks very similar. But I am no expert and would not hazzard a guess.

http://www.californiaherps.com/snakes/images/pccateniferch2.jpg

BTW... did I mention the gallon and a half of Hornitos in the past week... can we all say "Brain Dead" Bill? <img border="0" alt="[perplexed]" title="" src="graemlins/confused.gif" />

That looks pretty close to the same snake. But I am no expert on snakes. Just know the ones we have around Texas,Oklahoma,New Mexico area's like the Rattler's been bit twice by Rattler's Copper Heads been bit by one of these two teach me to play with snakes huh? Not! Also have Side Winders, Cotton Mouth Moccosin as well as the Racers used to catch these and have races between the Red, Yellow and Green Racers won money and lost money on these races.
Jimmy

It is probably: Pine Snake, Bullsnake or Gopher Snake. All these names refer to the same species, a powerful constrictor that seeks out rodents in their burrows and occasionally climb trees in search of birds or eggs. Pine snake is the eastern ; bullsnake, the midwestern, gopher snake in the western states.

Info from RD North American Wildlife.

From California Poison Action Line:
http://www.calpoison.org/public/snakebite.html

[qoute]How are non-poisonous snakes different from rattlesnakes?
In comparison, non-poisonous snakes have round pupils in their eyes. A non-poisonous snake tends to look more like a snake a child rolls out of clay: the head, neck and body have more-or-less the same diameter. They do not share the distinct skinny neck of the rattlesnake. This is true only of snakes native to California and does not apply to exotic snakes or snakes imported into California from elsewhere.

The Pacific Gopher snake and the common Bull snake have markings that are similar to a rattlesnake. These rattlesnake-like markings are a protective defense against enemies. But neither the Gopher Snake nor the Bull snake has the distinctive skinny neck that a rattler has. Still, many people are fooled into thinking that a Gopher or Bull snake is a rattlesnake. Bull snakes and Gopher snakes can cause a painful bite but they are not dangerous like a rattlesnake.

Be safe, be smart: Leave snakes alone and avoid a bite. [/quote]

*clink*clink* Cheers!!!!!


psssss......I think snakes are cool.

Thank goodness we only get garder snakes....and they only come if we don't cut the grass in a long time or if the garden gets overgrown.....like now.

Jenn....From:" just down the road a bit" ....anywhere close to California?...LOL..you comin over to bag him....he isn't a happy camper right now.LOL

TK....surrrrrre looks like a gopher snake to me. Thank you for finding the picture.

Are those only sexy~girl snakes, since they wear garder's??
BTW, aren't they called "garter snakes"?

Geesh, I didn't know there were so many new kinds of snakes out there??!!!???~~~~~~~~~~~~>
Golfer Snakes that eat Golfers....
Garder Snakes that wear Garders...

Sorry guys, I'm aweful giddy tonight,
lack of sleep !!!
Or toooooo much fertilizer....

Weezie

Thank you for the info Papito....I was actually outside checking up on a mockingbird baby that flew out of the nest this morning....he was testing out his wings for several hours.....mother/father would swoop down, squaking at me protecting the baby. I also have three other nests on the property that I know of and a bunch of gopher holes right now.

Can those gopher snakes climb up a good sized liquid amber tree? The bottom branches are about 12 ft. off the ground....there is a baby bird in one of my bird boxes. I'm going to have to check out that bougainvilla bush and see if it happened to get the little hummingbird eggs. :rolleyes:

So we can say you are full of "it" tonight?!
JUST KIDDING Weezie!!!!!

Just tonight???????????

I hit add reply too quick...I was going to change it...to "AGAIN"!!!
JUST KIDDING!!!!!!

or still catlover : most snakes or more afraid of you then you are them they will run if given a chance even Rattle Snakes want to be left alone but if cornered they will strike make no mistake of that or if some fool keeps teasing them. But not me not me yeah right!

Put out some moth balls around the areas that you don't want him in and you shouldn't have anymore problems... Or-- maybe I should say put them out around a FEW of the places that you want it to stay away from the most...

O.K.-- one more bit of info and I'm done with the snake thing... from the apparent size and shape of the snake's head it does NOT appear to be poisonous... the length you stated tends to support that fact as well. Poisonous snakes that are truly indigenous to North America don't tend to get that long. As a GENERAL rule four to four and a half feet is way up on the scale for ones that are poisonous. Yes the snake can climb your tree but as I stated in my other post just put out some moth balls around your tree and wherever else you want to really protect from it and you should be o.k. I hope this make it a little easier for you to sleep tonight...

Hey Weezie...I live in town...can you imagine what kind/size of snakes are out of town.

Tricia...how many cases of mothballs do I need to protect a 1/3 acre? <img border="0" alt="[perplexed]" title="" src="graemlins/confused.gif" /> Just kidding....he would probably come in from a gopher hole on the neighbors side and be trapped in here.LOL
"Yes the snake can climb your tree"....thanks a lot...you know how heightened my senses are right now....so if that means he can climb that tree...he can climb my overhead trellis's that I have covering the whole length of my house on the back side and coming in my front door. Greeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeat!!!
Paranoia setting in!!!!

Guess who is baaaaaack this morning!!! I wonder if he/she/it has a nest of eggs already laid!!! It sure came back pretty quick after I shooed it off the first time.

That thing is NOT afraid of me at all. It just lays all stretched out....I can wave or lay that garden rake right next to his face and pound it and he won't move....my daughter tossed a few small pebbles at it yesterday on it's body and it didn't move. The only thing that upset him was when I was behind it and touched it's tail....then he was not a happy camper.

Well....just knowing he is not poisonous is a HUGE relief....it is just the not knowing where he is at all times or like this morning....walking the property with my cup of coffee and then there he is.....you know how much they blend into leaf litter!....was bad enough having to watch out above for big garden spiders...now having to watch for snakes dangling from tree branches. LOL

We had A LOT of rain this year so all the rodents have increased populations....so you know what happens to the snake population.
Where are those red~tailed hawks when you need them.LOL

There is a nest of screech(sp?)owls a couple houses over from here in some really big trees....I wonder if they would catch something that big. A few weeks ago, flying within 12 ft. of me was some kind of smaller hawk that had a big rat in it's claws....it was soooo cool....even if I had the camera right then it would of been too fast to get but ohhhh what a Kodak moment.

If that snake agrees to stay out of my way I will stay out of it's way(maybe I should get that in writing...LOL)....otherwise I am calling the fire dept. for snake relocation.
Thank you everyone!
Catlover

Go for the relocation. No matter what you get signed. Snake bites are nasty even when not the posionous variety. And your right they are not easy to see in natural surroundings. One suprised ooops can turn into one nasty owwwwwie.

A snakes teeth point inward so they cannot disengage even if they want to.

Karen,


You know I used to backhand people when they did
that to me too!!!

<img border="0" alt="[tongue]" title="" src="graemlins/tongue.gif" />

JV....I think Weezie's "still" full of "it" applies TODAY too!!!

Tammy,
Just what she needs to !!!!

Which reminds me of yesterday....I had some not very sticky paper tape and I just placed a long strip of it under one of my cats front paws.... ....oh you should of seen how fast that cat could shake her paw.....ROFLMAO.

You know my favorite statement...what goes around...comes around <img border="0" alt="[perplexed]" title="" src="graemlins/confused.gif" />
I can just picture myself with that snake dangling from my hand trying to shake it off and having the thing wrap itself around my arm....(that is how they kill their prey) and having to use my other hand to grab it and to try and get it to release.......thanks for the mental visual. <img border="0" alt="[perplexed]" title="" src="graemlins/confused.gif" /> I think I will trade G~mom for that hemp snake of hers she has dangling from the tree tops.

Sorry sweetie,

But as the biology labs t.a. when I was in highschool I had to know. I used to have a boa constrictor wrapped around my neck about once a week when we would go around to the elementary schools so my teacher could give talks about wildlife. Also they are much more likely to bite when they are shedding their skin.

That looks like a very large bull snake to me. Bull snakes are your friend. They eat rodents (gophers and mice) and even baby rattle snakes. I am not afraid of snakes and most bull snakes don't have too bad of a temprement but are known to bite on occasion if being harassed. However, if you have a small kitty, that bull snake could eat it too! I think I would relocate it back to the gopher hill.

What a beautiful snake. Give him a cuddle for me please. I love snakes. They work so much better than rat traps.

I managed to get to the end of this thread but..well..I think I will slither back out of here if you don't mind.
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"Hey Lady...watch were you're putting that rake will ya?"

Well that gopher snake sure isn't paying his share of the rent that is for sure....yesterday there was that stinken gopher poking his head out of a hole eating away on some bird seed and burmuda grass.....and an adolescent RAT came out of the oleander feeding on some bird seed. <img border="0" alt="[perplexed]" title="" src="graemlins/confused.gif" />

The rat sat side by side eating seed with the smaller birds until a scrub jay came down to feed....scaring the little birds away but then the rat went after the scrub jay.

This year we had a lot more rain than usual so we have a lot more critters running around. Now where are those owls and hawks when you need them!

jenn,

would like a snake in my garder :p

imagine i used to be scared of an earthworm so imagine a snake in my garder...piiewww!

how can you people play with snake and jv you raced them...what courage...assuming it wasnt to out race them when being chased

bill,hope you got rid of it and keep the poor cat inside for a while or is it only a girl from the big town(lets be xplicit 15,000 if you call it big town) talking.

Jenn EXCUSE ME,WOULD NOT 'I REPEAT NOT NOT LIKE A SNAKE IN MY GARDER'NOOOOO!