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Posted By: Kareena G-mom - November 12th, 2004 at 09:41 PM
As most of you may realize G-mom has not been posting much in the last few days. Also most of you may realize I am her oldest daughter. shk Right now Karen is at the hospital with her youngess- Melissa. Missy has strep throat, the antibiotics have not been working. Also Missy started getting symptoms of the flu. shk shk She has a high fever, (103ish) still has the strep, some kind of infection and the Drs. do not have absoutly no idea what is wrong. They ( the Drs) are calling in Specalist to look at Missy. I will try to keep you updated. Or PM me.

Gardendaughter
Posted By: Anonymous Re: G-mom - November 12th, 2004 at 09:53 PM
I hope everything goes okay with your sister! Big prayers for her! I wonder if it could be Mono?????? Duh Being in the hospital is absolutely no fun at all. But it at least she's in the right place to get better.

Tell your mom we miss her, and hope that she's back soon.....but to take her time and be there for your sis!

laura
Posted By: Kareena Re: G-mom - November 12th, 2004 at 10:08 PM
Its not mono. Missy has been tested for everything, and the DRS are still stumped. I will let her and Gmom know. Thank you. kissies
Posted By: melcon6 Re: G-mom - November 12th, 2004 at 10:38 PM
I'm so sorry to hear this G-daughter, tell Mom to take care, and get her rest , too. Having your child sick or in pain is one of the worst things for a momma. ters sca
Posted By: afgreyparrot Re: G-mom - November 12th, 2004 at 10:54 PM
Kareena,
Thanks for posting this to let us know what's going on.

Tell G-Mom I'm sending prayers...
...and plenty of kissies


Cindy
Posted By: Kareena Re: G-mom - November 12th, 2004 at 11:13 PM
Yall are gonna make me cry!! ters
Posted By: catlover Re: G-mom - November 12th, 2004 at 11:27 PM
Sending Karen and Missy big hugs and many prayers angell angell angell
Thank you Kareena for keeping us updated.
How old is Missy?
Catlover
Posted By: Kareena Re: G-mom - November 12th, 2004 at 11:59 PM
She turned 12 in october. I will let them know that all of you have been so concerned. Thank you! kissies kissies kissies
Posted By: geegeeburr Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 12:01 AM
Sending positive thoughts to G-mom and your sister!
Posted By: Merme Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 12:20 AM
Love and prayers for all of you

kissies

Merme
Posted By: Anonymous Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 02:44 AM
Thanks for the well wishes ya'll kissies

Here's what's up..

2 weeks ago Missy was diagnosed with Strept throat,she had a full course of antibiotics and we thought she was better. Wednesday she started running a low fever and was "tossing her cookies"...We thought it was just a stomach bug...This morning she spiked 104.6 degrees and was complaining of a stiff neck,headache and sore throat. We went back to the ER after initial tests the Dr said he thought it was an antibiotic resistant infection. He proceeded to call in 2 more Drs,after more tests they brought up the thought that it was her body that was resistant to the antibiotics. They then called the chief of Pediatrics. They know she has a massive infection because her white blood cell count was 20,000. They ended up injecting some major doses of antibiotics and sending her home with VERY strict instructions...watch for bleeding in the throat,labored breathing and rashes. We take her back Monday.
I happened to over hear one of the Drs arguing on the phone about needing to admit somebody for proper treatment but couldn't because they didn't have insurance...I highly suspect that was Missy as we have no insurance right now. When she was released her temperature was 102.5.

I've got her propped up on the couch in the living room with her favorite stuffed tiger. She looks soooo miserable and I feel so bad for her. I'm not really comfortable with her treatment after hearing that Dr on the phone. I'm gonna be sticking right by her,sleeping on the love seat UGH!(I'm short...BUT not that short)

Thanks again kissies

G-Mom grinnnn
Posted By: melcon6 Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 02:49 AM
Oh, honey, I feel for you, been there with mine before and it scares you to death, you just want to be the one sick , not your lil baby.....Nothing to do but rest for her and rest for YOU too! Keep us posted we're all praying for a speedy recovery! angell
Posted By: Anonymous Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 03:20 AM
love, prayers, and please keep us posted
Posted By: weezie13 Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 04:11 AM
G~mom,
I know what you're going thru, my oldest never had a regular fever, it was 104*'s mad or nothing at all...
Scares you an inch away from death, and you're afraid to take your eyes off of them...was afraid he'd stop breathing or something....
I used to have to pull out the pull out couch and sleep right next to him.....
Cold wash clothe on the forhead *every so many minutes, cool it off again in ice water*,
half juice and half cold water to drink to keep liquids in him, tylenol for the fever and cool clothing...
I'd be awake allllllllllllllllllllllll night!!!!

I hope they find out what's happenin' real soon, and alllllllll is back to okay with little G~daughter!!!!

Sending many kissies cool to you both!!!!

Weezie

Kareena, Thanks for letting us know gab we appreciate it!!!!!!!!!!
Posted By: afgreyparrot Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 04:31 AM
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needing to admit somebody for proper treatment but couldn't because they didn't have insurance...I highly suspect that was Missy as we have no insurance right now.
Hospitals are NOT supposed to treat you any different if you don't have insurance.

mad

The local hospital here is very good about that. When I had my hysterectomy awhile back, they didn't ask for any money up front or treat me any different because I didn't have insurance.

Hope Missy gets better fast.

angell angell angell angell angell


Cindy
Posted By: Anonymous Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 04:40 AM
actually, also, there is a law (federal i believe) that says that any doctor that sees any patient in the hospital has to follow up and treat that patient, regardless of ability to pay, until the patient is well, or declared unable to get well by another physician. my daughter works in a doctor's office and i thought it was just here, but then a friend and i were talking and his wife works in a different state, and it is the same there.
Posted By: Meg Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 04:42 AM
{{{Missy & Karen}}} I sure do hope they are able to figure out what it is that is doing this. Resistant to antibiotics is very scary. My thoughts & prayers with your family.

Meg
Posted By: geegeeburr Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 07:31 AM
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I happened to over hear one of the Drs arguing on the phone about needing to admit somebody for proper treatment but couldn't because they didn't have insurance...
God, that's scary. And doesn't that completely go against the Hippocratic oath?

Sounds like you have a couple of very long nights ahead of you. Glad her fever's down. 104 is terrifying, esp in an older child. I hope she gets better SOON G-mom.
Posted By: Anonymous Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 06:00 PM
Inpatient treatment or home treatment were both options...I think they just went with the cheapest one...Just because 1 Dr. wanted to admit her doesn't mean the other ones agreed.

I do know that when I called her regular Dr.(6 years now,but always had insurance,never asked for a penny) to see if they would fit her in...I was told by the office that they couldn't see her unless I paid $70.00 up front...they said if I couldn't pay for the office visit then just go to the E.R.

Its not the Drs its the politics.

She woke up at 2am,crying and shivering,finally got her back to sleep around 4am. Fever seems to be stabilizing at 102 degrees.

G-Mom [Linked Image] [Linked Image]
Posted By: plants 'n pots Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 06:14 PM
G-mom ~

I hope Missy feels much better very soon, and that she and you are able to get much needed rest.

My kids also tend to run very high fevers when they are sick, so I do know the fear you experienced. One time, when my son was 2 and we were living with my parents at the time, everyone including my husband went to a Jets football game. While I was home alone with my son, he ran 105 all of a sudden and was very limp. I called the dr immediately, who was not on call that Sunday of course. The covering dr did not return my call until an hour later - gee thanks! In the meantime, I had found some Italian ices in the freezer and force fed them to my son - by the time the dr. called, his fever was almost normal and he was whistling while I was on the phone, so of course the dr. thought nothing was wrong! mad mad mad We found out the next day at the regular dr's that he also had Strep throat.
Posted By: jesussaves Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 07:33 PM
G~MOM

My prayers go out to you and your Missy. I too have daughters (9 and 4), and I know i panic every time they run fevers. After reading what you are going thru with your medical situation, I can't help but shake my head. Living up here in Canada, I have no Idea what that must be like, but how dare they put $$ before a childs health???
I do not want to add to your worry, but have they tested her for meningitis? As soon as I hear "stiff neck" my heart plummets to the floor. My oldest just went thru this whole stiff neck thing, and it scared the socks off me, but she didn't have any of the other symptoms. (fever, lethargy, vomiting, sensitivity to light, etc,), but we have this wonderful new service called "Telehealth", and it's a 1-800 # open 24/7 to a Registered Nurse who assesses you over the phone, which is great for saving you trips to the ER at 2 in the morning...should be mandatory nation-wide frown I earnestly pray she is better soon...and rest assured you have alot of people praying for you and Missy. God is good angell
Many thoughts and prayers,
Michelle<><
Posted By: weezie13 Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 07:36 PM
My oldest is like that,
High fever 104's all day, flat out on the pullout, and the next day, up jumpin' on the furniture..
While you're still tried from NO frown Duh

Weezie
Posted By: jesussaves Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 07:38 PM
SSSOOOOO TRUE!!!
(and no sympathy for the pooped mommies or daddies frown grinnnn
Michelle<><
Posted By: weezie13 Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 07:48 PM
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Gotta luv the little buggers though!!
That's why GOD made those babies sooooooooooo
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
ooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
cuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuteeeeeeeeeee

So you'll fall head over heals~helplessly in
LOVE with them, so when they get older and turn
into furniture jumpin', wall crawlin', sticky faced, etc. "KIDS" we'll still be so helplessly
in love with them, we won't bounce 'em out on their ears!!! Or duct tape 'em to the walls or sell 'em., or take them out for a car ride and leave 'em, or er, uh, um, I got a little carried away there didn't I??? shocked wink laugh

Weezie
Posted By: jesussaves Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 07:57 PM
you mean we're NOT supposed to duct tape them to the wall???????? laugh
Just Kidding!
Ahhhhhh....without kids or Jesus, my life would not have much purpose eh? cool smile
Michelle<>< angell
Posted By: afgreyparrot Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 07:58 PM
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Or duct tape 'em to the walls
Speak for yourself on this one! lala
Posted By: afgreyparrot Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 07:59 PM
Well, Michelle.....I see I'm not the only one that does this! laugh shk lala
Posted By: jesussaves Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 08:03 PM
since i married my husband and "acquired" 5 step-children in addition to my own 2, duct tape is my new best friend!! laugh grinnnn
Michelle angell
Posted By: weezie13 Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 08:13 PM
We have "STOCK" in Duct Tape,
Duct tape is my best friend, Duh idea what my house would look sca like, if it weren't for duct tape!!!
Posted By: afgreyparrot Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 08:14 PM
thumbup


lala
Posted By: Merme Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 10:07 PM
Not to totally interupt this fun banter, but to reply to an earlier question about a Federal Law requiring hospitals to treat patients....

The Law that's been referred to is THE HILL-BURTON ACT It states that ANY hospital which receives Federal Monies for ANY reason (buying expensive equipment, research, training, etc) MUST treat patients regardless of their ability to pay. The hospital receives free government money, so they must provide free care as needed.

This however, does NOT apply to private hospitals which usually do not recieve Federal Funding because they are privately owned and operated.

If you have no insurance and you know you are not in the ER or Admissions office of a private hospital, just ask that you want to be treated under The Hill Burton Act and they will have papers for you to sign.

Also, if your prescriptions are deemed necessary-for-life and not merely elective, and are needed at home,and you have no insurance, a hospital social worker can appeal to the pharmacutical company who manufactures the medication and have it sent direct from them to the hospital in your name. Then you can go to the hospital once a month and pick up your donated scripts. The pharmacutical companies also recieve tons of Federal Money, so....it's all your hard tax dollars at work. Don't be shy to ask for what you need!

And I too know about how scary antiobiotic resistant infections can be, up close and personal. ters

Merme
Posted By: Kareena Re: G-mom - November 13th, 2004 at 11:34 PM
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Hospitals are NOT supposed to treat you any different if you don't have insurance.
They'r not susposed to. I had to be admitted to the same hospital a few months back ( I thonk I had a concussion they said whip lash) The nurses would not let me get off the strecher even to go potty!! They wheeled me wherever I needed to go. But I have Insurance. It just goes to show you that all thay are worried about is the $$$$ :p
Posted By: Kareena Re: G-mom - November 15th, 2004 at 05:31 AM
Both Karen and Missy are alive, sleep deprived but doing ok. Temp is aroung 101 or 102. She goes to the DR tomorow. I will up date yall then

G-daughter.
Posted By: afgreyparrot Re: G-mom - November 15th, 2004 at 05:35 AM
Thank you , Kareena.
I just PM'd you!

Cin
Posted By: Kareena Re: G-mom - November 15th, 2004 at 05:51 AM
Smart butt! I was letting everyone know!
Posted By: afgreyparrot Re: G-mom - November 15th, 2004 at 05:54 AM
laugh
Posted By: afgreyparrot Re: G-mom - November 15th, 2004 at 05:56 AM
and I'm tellin' your mom you called me a name!
Posted By: Meg Re: G-mom - November 15th, 2004 at 12:26 PM
I was just going to ask how she was doing.. glad to hear the fever is somewhat better. Continued prayers for her to get better.

Meg
Posted By: weezie13 Re: G-mom - November 15th, 2004 at 06:06 PM
Did she go to the Doctor's this morning???
And what was the outcome?????


That's a long time to have a high fever!!!

Sending angell angell angell angell angell to G~Mom and Wee~G~Daughter.

Weezie
Posted By: Kareena Re: G-mom - November 15th, 2004 at 08:06 PM
and I'm tellin' your mom you called me a name!

shk
OOh I'm scared!!!
shk
Posted By: Kareena Re: G-mom - November 15th, 2004 at 08:08 PM
I called a few mins. ago. Missy is the same. They put her on more Antibiotics. And thats all I got for now.
Posted By: suzydaze Re: G-mom - November 15th, 2004 at 08:31 PM
Glad I didn't read this thursday. Ashley woke up running a fever and puking up, all over the kitchen floor. So I ran her right over to the doctor cause everyone knows if they are sick on friday it'll just get worse on the week end.

So we hop in the car and run to the doctor and just as he's asking about her puking up, she lets it fly, all over the floor right in front of him laugh

I say, yeah she has, just like that. He said a stomach bug going around gave her some meds and she was better in a couple hours.
Today she's up to her old mean self. wink
Posted By: Kareena Re: G-mom - November 15th, 2004 at 08:49 PM
Its good to hear that she is ok.


G-daughter
Posted By: Anonymous Re: G-mom - November 16th, 2004 at 02:42 PM
Glad to hear your daughter is OK,Suzydaze! We thought Missy had a stomach bug when she got sick again last week.

Dr. Update...Missys throat is clearing up but, she now has a sinus infection. She is on her 3rd antibiotic in 3 weeks! This newest batch BETTER work...they cost $10.00 a pill! Can you guess whos budget is totally SHOT mad

G-Mom grinnnn
Posted By: suzydaze Re: G-mom - November 16th, 2004 at 03:20 PM
it's scarey when they get sick. If she's running a fever I usually take her right to the doctor.

My cousin when I was 10 (she was 13) ran a fever for 3 days and was getting dressed to go to the doctor and fell over dead in the bed. I'd played with her everyday that week and ran a fever just like her. They never found out why she died.

So when it's a fever I sort of panic some. The puking doesn't bother me too much. My oldest puked every hour on the hour. She was born with a stomach ucler. When they'd call me from school telling me she'd puked I'd ask how much. Any and everything made her sick to her stomach. (you think that could be why I had morning sickness the entire 9 months Duh )
Posted By: afgreyparrot Re: G-mom - November 16th, 2004 at 03:58 PM
I hope that expensive pill works!

I had to take some pills that were about 10 bucks apiece (came in a little pack of 7 pills) a few years ago when I had a BAD sinus infection/sore throat that ended up in my ears. The ear infection was so bad it burst both of my eardrums. (That had to hurt!)

The doctor was afraid the infection was going to get into my BRAIN! laugh kissies from me.

Cindy
Posted By: Anonymous Re: G-mom - November 16th, 2004 at 04:02 PM
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the infection was going to get into my BRAIN!
laugh laugh

That explains ALOT!

laugh laugh

G-Mom [Linked Image]
Posted By: Kareena Re: G-mom - November 16th, 2004 at 08:08 PM
Ahhh. Thats what wrong with Cindy!!!

laugh

Gdaughter
Posted By: geegeeburr Re: G-mom - November 18th, 2004 at 12:10 AM
What's the latest on the youngster? Is she doing better?
Posted By: Kareena Re: G-mom - November 18th, 2004 at 02:26 AM
Better... snotty( I knew that allready laugh ) stuffed up, but back at school.

G-daughter.
Posted By: Meg Re: G-mom - November 18th, 2004 at 02:30 AM
So glad to hear she's improving. Thanks for the updates!

Meg
Posted By: afgreyparrot Re: G-mom - November 18th, 2004 at 02:30 AM
So WHERE IS G-MOM????? Duh

I need her!

I have the flu!!! ters
Posted By: geegeeburr Re: G-mom - November 18th, 2004 at 05:46 AM
Oh good! So glad she's better! G-mom must be so relieved. Is she catching up on her rest?

BTW, about the DUCT TAPE conversation a few pgs ago- Did you guys know they make CLEAR duct tape now? How much does that rock?! smile
Posted By: afgreyparrot Re: G-mom - November 18th, 2004 at 05:51 AM
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Did you guys know they make CLEAR duct tape now? How much does that rock?!
So, you're saying you could duct tape a 5 year old's mouth shut IN THE CAR and no one could even tell?? Duh

laugh laugh laugh
Posted By: Anonymous Re: G-mom - November 18th, 2004 at 02:38 PM
I'm a duct-tape lover too,it's amazing the uses it has.

If you really want to appreciate duct-tape check this site out!!!

duct-tape uses

G-Mom grinnnn

P.S. Kareena...you were snotty once too! :p laugh
Posted By: afgreyparrot Re: G-mom - November 18th, 2004 at 03:07 PM
That is SO COOL!
The duct tape prom dress! thumbup

Should have thought of that one when Rachel went to the prom!
laugh laugh laugh

Cin
Posted By: Anonymous Re: G-mom - November 18th, 2004 at 03:11 PM
I thought the Alien costume was COOL! thumbup

G-Mom grinnnn
Posted By: weezie13 Re: G-mom - November 18th, 2004 at 04:22 PM
Clear Duct Tape thumbup cool grinnnn lala
Posted By: Kareena Re: G-mom - November 18th, 2004 at 08:09 PM
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...you were snotty once too! :p laugh
What are you talking about? I still an snotty!!

laugh
Posted By: geegeeburr Re: G-mom - November 18th, 2004 at 10:57 PM
Those are BRILLIANT. In college, I had a favorite pair of boots that I wore out and then duct-taped together for about 4 years. Embarassed the HECK out of my mom. Now I can tell her I wasn't crazy, just ahead of my time! smile
Posted By: Kareena Re: G-mom - November 18th, 2004 at 11:23 PM
Here in Jax. there is a radio station that has a duct tape bikini contest. The best bikini wins a good amount of $$$$

muggs
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