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April 14th, 2006 at 08:33 PM
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When I looked out at the pond this morning I could see my goldfish swimming around the edge of the pond..splashing and swimming in groups. I mean, they were about jumping out of the pond! They are still doing it, 2 hours later. Is there something wrong with the pond water causing them to do this? It's gotten quite a bit of algae in it over the winter.
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April 14th, 2006 at 08:58 PM
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Are there any bug hatches? Maybe? how big is the pond?
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April 14th, 2006 at 09:38 PM
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OK...here are some pictures. They are still doing it, splashing around and getting up in the plants, like they are trying to get out of the water ...and chasing each other around. Same thing going on over on the other side of the pond... Excuse my ignorance, but could they be having sex? If I have just posted pictures of my goldfish doing it, somebody please tell me so I can delete it! If that's not what they're doing, I am worried about them!
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April 14th, 2006 at 09:53 PM
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I was just going to say that.. It is fish mating season LOL Bass do the same thing and usually at the edge of the pond LOL beautiful pond!!
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April 14th, 2006 at 10:00 PM
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I'd say feeding or breeding, one or the other!
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April 14th, 2006 at 10:06 PM
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Well...I guess I should stop going out there staring at them, and taking pictures.
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Well, if they are in fact "reproducing" then I have a serious problem, because I do NOT want anymore goldfish! 5 goldfish turned into 80+ last year because of them doing this. If I get the same amount of babies per adult this year, I will have WAY over 1,000 goldfish. Is there something I can do at this point to get rid of the eggs... ...before they hatch? (They do have eggs, don't they?...or are they born alive from the mommy?)
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April 14th, 2006 at 10:32 PM
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Maybe I need to buy a goldfish book. I googled "goldfish sex" and couldn't come up with anything.
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April 14th, 2006 at 10:37 PM
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CINDY - ACT FAST!!! Just found this in a google search for ya... In goldfish and Siamese fighting fish, the female can be mortally injured during mating. Goldfish may be pummelled into the sand; Siamese fighting fish may be squeezed too energetically by males hoping to extract extra eggs.
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Try goldfish reproduction!
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April 14th, 2006 at 10:43 PM
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Originally posted by loz: Try goldfish reproduction! Loz...did you think Cindy would be that subtle?
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April 14th, 2006 at 10:46 PM
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Here's more info, about goldfish in tanks, but I'm sure it would apply outdoors as well... GOLDFISH MATING HABITS!!! (SHOCKING!!) Not really. But it makes for a good show. When the water warms up, you will see one fish chasing another (or a whole production of fish doing this) madly through the tank. No, they are not fighting! The male smells the female's ripened eggs (still in her egg sac) and chases her. As she swims, she lays the eggs (hundreds, probably thousands of them). They are compressed, in her body. When they hit the water, they expand, but they are still small. The male will fertilize the eggs as they descend. It can be quite a frenzied sight, so MAKE SURE the tank cover is on securely (as it should ALWAYS be). The fish can also both get SUPER TIRED from mating, so it would be a good idea to separate the males from the females if you don't want this behavior (one tank for each the guy fish will get together and chew the fat "Hey, that lady fish yeah, I usta know her", or something like that, and the lady fish will probably discuss the latest in flowing fins. Just kidding.)
HOW OFTEN DO THEY MATE??? They could do it every week if they are physically capable of it. That means, lots of eggs to clean out, and it does smell (although they will eat some eggs, most of them don't get eaten). Well, maybe you could let them mate once, and then separate them. Goldfish CANNOT be spayed or neutered. about goldfish
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April 14th, 2006 at 10:57 PM
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Holy Koogamooga, Lynne! That's exactly what they're doing!!! (ooops...I mean "reproduce".) So, this has all come as a shock to me...the whole deal. And, the fact they they are all related makes me wonder now if they are going to be "normal"...because of inbreeding. (They will probably all end up looking alike!) the female can be mortally injured during mating. This disturbs me.....
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April 14th, 2006 at 11:08 PM
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They will probably all end up looking alike! Variety is the spice of life, right Cindy??? You're not the only one who didn't know... I thought the female laid the eggs and the male came along and fertilized... Poor ladies... hope they survive!!!
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April 14th, 2006 at 11:14 PM
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I'm going outside for a few minutes...to watch!
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April 14th, 2006 at 11:30 PM
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Very interesting! Looks like you are gonna be a goldfishies grandma again Cindy, or is it great grandma this time around???
Love the pics, btw, very cool to see them above the water like that!
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April 14th, 2006 at 11:48 PM
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I took some food out to them to try to calm them down for awhile...don't know if that was a good or bad idea. I really don't want the males to keep their strength up and end up hurting the females, but I wanted the females to get some energy to fight off the males. They all stopped what they were doing and started devouring the food. I asked if any of them wanted a cigarette and none of them spoke up.
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April 14th, 2006 at 11:55 PM
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April 15th, 2006 at 04:23 AM
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Originally posted by afgreyparrot: I took some food out to them to try to calm them down for awhile...don't know if that was a good or bad idea. They all stopped what they were doing and started devouring the food. Wow! Fish have different priorities than people, I guess!
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April 15th, 2006 at 10:13 AM
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Hey that's pretty funny and I know how shocking that can be to you. I would be scared if they were out of the pond. Have you cought any fish out yet by any chance? lol good luck!
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April 15th, 2006 at 08:13 PM
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Have you cought any fish out yet by any chance? Yep. Yesterday when they were fliiping around in one of the plants one of them ended up on the rocks at the edge of the pond. Before I could get around to the side of the pond it was at, it flipped back into the water by itself. They're still at it this morning..... :rolleyes:
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well, the good news is that you have educated a bunch of us today and for that we thank you
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April 16th, 2006 at 06:05 AM
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Glad it flipped itself back in Cindy. What kind of goldfish are they? They look bigger than what my FIL put in his pond. Though your pond is bigger too!
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What kind of goldfish are they? They are the 22 cent disposable goldfish from Wal-Mart. They were an inch long when I got them (5 of them). When we put them in the little pond they were so tiny we couldn't even find them until they grew a little bit. The original 5 had a million babies last spring, of which 80+ survived (that's the "babies" in the pictures)...they are huge, and the 5 I started out with are GIANTS. I guess I got my dollar's worth, didn't I?
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April 16th, 2006 at 08:26 AM
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I guess so. WOW! Did not know those lil things got so big!
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April 16th, 2006 at 08:35 AM
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Did not know those lil things got so big! .....me either. :rolleyes:
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I always read they get pretty big depending on the size of the pond. I'm sticking to minnows or something when we dig mine out...preferably all male ones.
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April 16th, 2006 at 08:53 AM
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Good luck with that Loz. I don't think it would be easy to tell the sex of minnows
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April 16th, 2006 at 04:01 PM
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Originally posted by loz: [QB] I always read they get pretty big depending on the size of the pond. Yes Loz is right Cindy.
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but remember, they still have a genetic "max size" determination... probably somewhere around 8-10 inches.
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April 29th, 2006 at 11:11 PM
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I'm so glad you posted this - my comets are doing the same thing this morning...you all answered my questions about fish sex! That's a hard one to google!
Thanks!
Now I guess I'll just wait to see some babies!
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April 30th, 2006 at 12:28 AM
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Welcome to the forum Jennifer!! Nice to meet you!
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April 30th, 2006 at 01:57 AM
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Hi Jennifer - welcome to the forums.
By the way... I did google this topic - you'd be surprised what you can find online - if you read back a few posts, I put in some quotes.
Are your comets in a pond, or tank?
I don't live to far from you - as a matter of fact, I bought my car in Wappinger Falls! A camry.
Hope you'll come down and visit with us in the Banter Hall in the coffee house and tell us a bit more about yourself?
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April 30th, 2006 at 01:21 PM
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Hi, Jennifer! Welcome to the forum! I'm so glad you posted this You know, I started to delete this topic after I realized what they were doing! But, Bill told me to leave it because someone else might have the same question I did...wondering what in the world their fishies were doing! Glad you found the answer...and glad you found our forum! Cindy
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April 30th, 2006 at 02:03 PM
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Well, maybe you could let them mate once, and then separate them. Goldfish CANNOT be spayed or neutered LOL Ok this cracked me up..........That would be one heck of a vet right there. How do you tell the difference?
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May 1st, 2006 at 02:16 AM
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Females are usually bigger than the males,and usually have less color..
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May 3rd, 2006 at 02:02 AM
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Well, after reading this..i am a little disturbed at how many fish i will have when it's all done with..how many times a year do they do this little thing..i mean..i don't need anymore fish..i already have enough..i wanted to pick the ones i wanted..not become an instant mother of 12,000 fish..if my fish start having babies..i'll have more than i can handle..i already have 7 goldfish and 3 koi..i wonder if they interbreed..wouldn't that be funny..hahahahaha
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Lst year I had 2 goldfish. I didn't know they had babies untill they were about an inch long. Out of the ,what 100's, of eggs only 2 survived. One looks like it's mom and the other it's dad. I ususaly have a big problem with frogs. Maybe they ate the other eggs or hatchlings. I am looking forward to seeing how many survive this year, cause they're at it again. My plans for another pond and will need a few more fish would be great to breed my own. I'm suprised at how many survived in langs pond.
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May 4th, 2006 at 04:23 AM
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Oh it wasn't langford who had bunches or fishes it was afgreyparrot. My mistake.
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Yeah no not yet..and i haven't seen my fish doing anything suspicious yet either..if i do..i'm dropping birth control tablets in the water..i'll let ya know if that helps..I have 2 fish inside from last year..they must be the same sex they haven't done anything strange yet
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afgreyparrot, i envy u for having success in breeding your goldfish. I am trying to learn on how to actually enhance the chances of my goldfish breeding. I have a small pond measuring about 7 to 8 ft. in length and about 1.5 ft depth. I have a pump which pumps water into my filter which inturns flows back into the pond. My questions would be the survivor probablity of the eggs. I am sure the eggs will gets sucked into the pumps and ended up in the filter system or become fishcake.
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cyberblues..... I hate to admit this, but after my fish finished their egg routine, I drained 3/4 of my pond and put new water in it, hoping that I drained the eggs out. I can't handle anymore fish! I hope you get some babies soon! Welcome to the forum! Cindy
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Cyberblues, that was a good point! What is to stop the eggs from going into the filter?
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All I have to say is thank you for all the awesome comments and tips everyone. I've learned a lot today and got a few good laughs. You guys are awesome! Take care!
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the fishes, if you look at cindy's pics, are in the shallows, in the plants. that is why the eggs aren't sucked in the filters. they are caught in the shallows in the plants. since i have no shallows, i get no babies.
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I wonder how long it takes for eggs to turn into baby fishies... I bet when I drained my pond and refilled it the eggs were in the plants...and the water stayed in the plants. I don't need anymore kids!
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Cindy, one site I looked at said that the fish will hatch in just a few days. It also said they will be little brown fishlings that will like the dense areas of your pond plantings. So if you were gonna have babies, you will already have them. After a few weeks the brown fish will start to develop their color.
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June 13th, 2006 at 02:26 PM
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They are probably there...and I just can't see them yet.
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June 13th, 2006 at 03:28 PM
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Sorry Cindy, I know you do not want more babies.
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They are brown..we have them here at work..goldfish in our pond..well it really isn't a pond..it's a freakin small lake..but someone put goldfish in them..and they multiplied last year..and again this year..they are tiny brown fishies..and well there are about 5000 of them left out there...they think the catfish will eat them all..so i'm going to go out there with a bucket and catch them and take them home to my new pond..hehe..
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My black and orange goldfish are starting to get really big!!!! We love sitting out there watching them feed in the evening.
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They are those starter fish. I think someone won some at the fair and decided to put them in there. Well now they are huge. But them mean ole' catfish are in there with them. And now someone has put bass in there. I don't know how long those babies will stay alive. So I'll make sure they do..hehe..Does anyone know if koi will breed in captivity? Cause i heard they don't..now that would be nice, a free supply of those..cause those things are expensive
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Yes they do breed .. My aunts did over the winter! now she has a bunch!
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Wonderful..can't wait for this too happen..now to figure out if i have males or females..hmmm..that would be interesting to find out.haha
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First, I want to know how you 'sex' fish!
But really, they are mating. Days get longer signaling time to mate, so they get real active. In the beginning I had a real small pond, and my fish would literally leap out during mating season. I actually found two of them one day laying one on top of the other dead out of the pond. It was like they committed 'fishicide' or something!
What I do with my fish when I have way too many and that happens every year is I take them to my local pond shop and trade them for a due bill toward product. The shop benefits and I benefit. If you have all those fish you are way over stocked for your pond unless you have a lake, lady! So those are my thoughts and experience with the fishes. Hope this helps, and give them some privacy!
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you know, cindy, april has an idea. you could trade the fish for other stuff, or sell some on ebay or whatever. i mean, look, loz bought fish off ebay and they made it to her!
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Shoot i wonder how much you could make if you had a bunch of koi..hehe..i'll bet alot, cause those things are expensive..
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you could trade the fish for other stuff, or sell some on ebay or whatever. uhhh, no I couldn't! I gave my aunt 5 fish last summer, and I cried when they left. ...even though I knew they were going to a good home. I get too attached to things. More fish = build larger pond. I need to get a grip on it!
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That is why i am building a bigger pond..to get more fish..hehe..i just hope they still have them at the pond store when i go get more..ya know? i don't think i would get too attached if they all started breeding and stuff..cause they would overrun my pond..hehe..although i think it will take awhile for that to happen...it is 24' long x 19 feet wide..
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I'm so glad I found this forum! We brought our 6 pond goldfish inside a couple of months ago, so they wouldn't freeze. Set up a tank in the dining room for them. Well, they have been acting goofy the past couple of days. Chasing, digging in the lone plant, etc. Anyway, I just saw a fish being squeezed in the plant. She is laying eggs!! I scooped out some of them and put them in a mason jar. We want to increase our pond size in the spring so if they make it this will be great! Save myself $.12 ea on baby goldfish <g> Sharon
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I'm glad this topic helped...I was a little embarrassed by posting it, to tell you the truth. The eggs you got out...were they fertilized yet?
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Welcome. And I was going to ask the same thing, if they were fertilized yet.
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Last week they were exhibiting classic mating behavior. I think because I put some fake plants in the tank last week. ...ya reckon that would work for humans?
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You want me to send you some fake plants to see if it works?
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uhhh...no...I don't have a "mate"!
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Well, I assume they were fertilized. The males were on each side of her shaking along with her. Do they fertilize right away? I was so busy watching the eggs dropping that I didn't notice the males "dropping" their part of the deal. Sharon
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I don't know the answer to that, but I fill find out. When my goldfish did their deed I panicked and removed about 2-3 feet of water from my pond immediately and refilled it, to get rid of the eggs...because I don't want any babies. My 5 original goldfish turned into almost 80 in my small pond, so I had to build a bigger pond for the 80. I can't keep building bigger ponds.
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Sharon...how fast did you remove the eggs? ...and do you have them in another tank now? The Male goldfish will chase the female goldfish around the tank endlessly (sometimes even tearing and hurting her fins). The female goldfish will become very tired and will release her eggs, sometimes by the hundreds or thousands, all over the tank. Most of them will stick to the plants. The male goldfish will spray his milt over the eggs and the tank will get a cloudy appearance (don't change the water!). After about three to four hours the courtship should stop.
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i don't know if this is a stupid question or not, but,,,,,will a monster koi and fantail goldfish mate or spawn together?? i'm still planning on finding the koi a home in the spring, i don't want anything even remotely close to a koi after i get him out of here.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by afgreyparrot: [QB] Sharon...how fast did you remove the eggs? ...and do you have them in another tank now? I removed them within 20 minutes or so. Since there were so many eggs, I don't know which were laid when. I put them in a mason jar since I didn't have another tank. And guess what? We have one baby tonight! Tinest little thing swimming around Sharon
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Originally posted by afgreyparrot: My 5 original goldfish turned into almost 80 in my small pond, so I had to build a bigger pond for the 80. I can't keep building bigger ponds. You would if you could...
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