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#46888 August 6th, 2006 at 08:06 AM
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About 2 months ago I planted Irish and Scottish moss between some flagstone. I used a tree and shrub planting soil mix. I watered the area every day for about 3 weeks and they all seemed to do great; filling in and flowering. Last week they started to brown in the center. The temps were in the mid 90's. I have started to mist them whenever i can. Is this normal and will they recover?

#46889 August 6th, 2006 at 08:41 AM
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I lost my Scotch moss this year to the heat (and lack of rain) but they had the brown centers last year and recovered.

#46890 August 7th, 2006 at 09:25 AM
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It seems the heat and lack of rain is taking a toil on everything these days, so that may be the problem. Duh

Personally, I've never grown any of the mosses but from what I remember in my horticulture class is that most mosses will not do well in full sun and prefer a more shaded area. They need humidity and moisture, and they like soil that is acidic, but I can't remember the pH, sorry! frown

#46891 August 7th, 2006 at 11:24 AM
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I found a website called "moss acres" that had good info;you're right patches1414 they recommend an acidic ph 5.0-6.0. I'm not sure what my soil is in that area. The nursery I bought the moss at said full sun exposure and again initially the plants took off;but I agree that the severity of the heat is affecting everything.

#46892 August 7th, 2006 at 05:37 PM
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Thanks a bunch! thumbup

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The nursery I bought the moss at said full sun exposure
You know, I used to go strictly by what they said about exposure (sun, partial shade, shade) but I've found that it doesn't always hold true frown and can vary a little bit with some plants tolerating more sun or shade. wink

By the way, my name is Patti and it's on my signature button with the picture of my kitty. wink

#46893 August 8th, 2006 at 08:03 AM
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Scotch and Irish mosses are NOT "true" mosses so they do not need to be in the shade. I have been growing them for years at other houses I owned and they always suffer in the summer. I usually just replant the parts that don't make it and eventually it will all fill in. Mine is doing the same thing and I was REALLY watering it..I think it just the heat stress like everything else! GOOD LUCK!

#46894 August 8th, 2006 at 08:04 AM
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I loves the kitty!

#46895 August 8th, 2006 at 02:58 PM
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Glad to be of help Patti. I agree with the both of you in that each plant is going to respond a little differently according to it's environment and current atmospheric conditions. I think these guys will do well once established and under normal growing conditions.Thanks for the input!

#46896 August 9th, 2006 at 12:58 PM
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Pictures of the moss planting area smile

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#46897 August 9th, 2006 at 01:39 PM
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sun exposure is listed generally and you must adapt to your part of the world.

a plant may take full sun connecticut, partial shade in virginia, and need full shade to survive in texas.

#46898 August 9th, 2006 at 02:01 PM
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So you would think that a plant bought at a local nursery would state the sun exposure level for this plant at this local area. Right?

#46899 August 9th, 2006 at 08:49 PM
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Merrill, I've found that pretty much to be true since they usually only carry the plants which will succeed in that particular area, otherwise their customers will not be satisfied, so that's not very good for business! frown

#46900 August 11th, 2006 at 01:56 PM
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You're right Patti smile When I was shopping at this nursery all of the employees pointed me to this one perennial expert for advice. I told her that I wanted an Irish Moss look between my flagstone.
She showed me where they were;but also asked me to consider all of their "stepables" and recommended highly "Red Creeping Thyme"as an alternative.I stuck with Irish Moss and Scottish Moss;but also planted 2 of the Thymes.Around the border i planted a stepable euonymus. As it has turned out so far her advice was right on the money!The "mosses" are doing so-so; the euonymus has done poorly;but the Thyme hasdone excellently. The added bonus of the Thyme is that when you step on it ; it sends out it's aroma!

#46901 August 11th, 2006 at 02:14 PM
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Here is a recent picture of the "Flagstone planting area"
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This just show's the browning of the mosses. I need to get a picture of the "Red Creeping Thyme" at the gate entrance.

#46902 August 11th, 2006 at 02:32 PM
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Merrill, I would love Duh

#46903 August 12th, 2006 at 12:46 PM
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Yes I did. I didn't know that they would disappear from here once copied. I'm looking at them now (total of 4 pictures);3 on one post and 1 on another under this topic. Doesn't everyone else see what i see? Duh

#46904 August 12th, 2006 at 05:12 PM
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Merrill, I just went back and checked and I still can't see the pictures. I says they have been removed, but it might be my computer because it has been doing funny things today! I guess we will have to wait until someone else shows up to see if they can see them.

#46905 August 13th, 2006 at 05:37 AM
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Patti, I'll put them back on photobucket and copy them (3) to this post.
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#46906 August 13th, 2006 at 06:03 AM
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Here's 3 close-ups of the 3 types of "stepables" in the walkway. Scottish moss,Creeping euonymus,and Creeping Red Thyme.
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#46907 August 14th, 2006 at 06:14 PM
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Thanks for putting the pictures back, Merrill! thumbup I think you're going to really like the Creeping Red Thyme because I've seen it used before and it looked great! wink

#46908 August 15th, 2006 at 02:36 PM
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Thanks for the compliment Patti smile This is first season growth; I expect losses and adjustments.
If you thrive here; then you are first in line to be planted over the ones that failed here.If you didn't die and you show promise of not only living but looking spectacular; then I will propegate you. So far the Red Creeping Thyme is is my choice. perpl But I expect this may change as we go into another season.Anywho thanks for the input clp

#46909 August 15th, 2006 at 04:26 PM
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If you thrive here; then you are first in line to be planted over the ones that failed here.If you didn't die and you show promise of not only living but looking spectacular; then I will propegate you.
Hey Merrill, I love Duh I've only seen the Creeping Red Thyme and I thought it was pretty. wink

#46910 August 16th, 2006 at 02:23 PM
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Hey Patti, I have to quit making such profound statements thumbup

#46911 August 16th, 2006 at 03:09 PM
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I think sometimes the plant is "just not right" for our specific environment.For me,I look at it as I did all I could,it isn't thriving; plant something else.
Merrill, I totallly agree! I have plants thriving in my garden that should not be doing well in my area, and I've also had plants that should do well, but don't!!! You really just have to see what works for you and your situation and go from there. It seems like it's always a trial and error adventure!

#46912 August 18th, 2006 at 02:19 PM
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Yes Patti, it seems that for that first month after planting;the little newby was just mean't to be here. Then all of a sudden it goes into some sort of dying mode and you have to know how to save it! laugh laugh With some the changes are minor;with others they're fast and furious;needing immediate attention!Is there a doctor in the house!!! laugh laugh laugh :)What's ironic is some you want to die; you can't kill; their everlasting! kissies

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