A Gardeners Forum Forums Gardening Reference Gardening in 2006 Anyone know about Grape vines?

I have had a grape vine for 2 years. I don't know if I am doing something wrong it gets leaves but never any fruit it is small and don't look very healthy .. I use miracle grow on it..
I am sure one of you can give me some helpful advice!!
I can take a pic it you need one..

I have a few, and they are a couple years old (like 3??) and no fruit yet. Maybe this year....

One of them used to be in an area where there was bad drainage, and it looked pretty sad. Got leaves, but they were small, and not lots of new growth. When I moved it to a better spot last year, which was a little less sunny, but has great drainage, it really took off!! So Im hopeful.

I dont know much about feeding, but havent really heard all the best about Miracle Grow. Too many salts...(im sure someone can explaine better).

So, maybe you would consider moving it. I can say that they seem pretty hardy and dont mind being uprooted. Just my experience!

Good luck!!

Are you doing any pruning on the grape vines yet?

I have never pruned them cause I was affraid it would get worse to be honest ... it really is scrawny...

Here is a pic if it helps at all ..
It has pretty much been the same size as when I bought it ..

My dad grew grapes on a what was called a grape barber in full sun, the grapes would hang down and they were easy to pick My mom made jelly with them (purple) the vines grew fast a 10 by 15 ft barber was covered with vines in 2 years you do have to prune old wood after you get grapes he never fertilized, hope maybe this helps.

springfeaver,

Dont know about the grapes, but i do like the Trillis.......ha ha

I have a Huge arbor , but it been up so long, I cant remember the beginning......I trimmed it last winter vigorously.. You cannot cut them back after February... They will weep to death.
Yep they really drip . Might be a soil problem.
dodge

Thanks ...

Dodge it was a cheap trellis .. family dollar I thing ...
I heard about the weeping so I didn't prune it
Has to be the soil..

Springfeaver,

Type in growing grapes in your search box and it may show you, requirements......Actually I neglect mine.. THey need to be replaced.. Each year we get less and less.

dodge

were the roots in a ball when you planted it? maybe they need to be fanned out?

Wrennie I planted it fine ... I am thinking I might have to pull it and replant it somewhere else.. then I was reading they need a lot of nitrogen so I need to buy some fertalizer..

Springfeaver,

I tried new ones 2 years ago..

They are standing still..

dodge

Springfeaver,

Yesterday you sent me a message and the computer would not allow me on .. it said I didnt have a account????????????

Dum da dum dum.

dodge

Wouldn't a grape vine want fruit tree food? I'm only guessing.
What does weeping mean?
You know what always confuses me? PRUNING. The blooms and fruits on old wood vs. on new wood thing. I never can get all that to penetrate my brain cells. What's left of them....

Hmm Unreal my parents have them and they grow worse than weeds???
the prune thing forget about it I can't grasp that one either Deborah...

Dodge on my e-mail or PM ?? Bazzar!! hmm

Deborah L.

Grape vines needs loose soil like sandy or clay topsoil.. Good drainage.Open spaces with lots of sun..
To plant dig hole and fill with peatmoss and soil and manure and water well..Just plant it at the same depth as it was before.. Just to the neck,..
First year use ammonia nitrate...to Fertilize.
That is the plant food.........
Weeping means it crys a wet solution an it might kill them.. If you cut them in the winter before the spring buds come on , your safe.
Pruning is tricky........
I heard a million stories on dead and live wood.
Some one says the old wood makes the best sweetest grapes????????California winery?
I prune them , but I am not sure how to do it> ;O)

Dodge

Then wouldn't you want to keep the old wood??

Now I am Just totally confused..
maybe I should just stick to the raspberries LOL

Maybe I should pill it and double check if I did it the right way??

Springfeaver,

Some old wood is ok........but you must keep the main branch and let new grow out of it .. Sweeter..

dodge?

LOL, spring, I'm not alone in my pruning confusion.
Thanks, Dodge, for the info.

Deb,Springfeaver,

lets post for a happy pruner........
dodge

Yes, let's ! I'm scared to prune my new wisteria, even though directions have been posted here.
I'm scared to prune anything ! My potted citrus and roses, I'm OK with them though.

Deb,Springfeaver,

lets post for a happy pruner........
dodge

Yeah we should Dodge...
Wisteria Deborah .. that is something I am more familiar with, you only cut 2year old branches or vines... see they only grow on 2 year old growth
which means I have blooms this year, after they bloom I cut only those branches off, and let the old ones grow ... cause I am possitive those are the old ones and I am affraid to cut any others.. did that make any sense at all??

Do you happen to have a lime deb? if so I was just wondering if it had thorns ?? Mine does.

I posted prunning for happy fruit ...