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Hello y'all,
I have been doing a lil gardening for several years with great success until this year.
We decided to till up a larger garden this year.
I planted several different types of cabbage, broccoli, bok choy and such. After several days the plants are getting a little yellow. I have not used any fertilzers and have done nothing but tilled ground. I thought maybe the soil was acidic and maybe it needed pelletized lime.
Just not sure at this point.
Any suggestions?
Thanks!
sc

spring Chicken,
How much time elapsed between tilling
and planting????

Weezie

"How much time elapsed between tilling
and planting????"
Hey there weezy,
I tilled the ground about a month ago, and just before planting I ran the tiller through each row.

Three questions spring Chicken:1 Was the area you tilled up for a new garden Lawn before? If so you may have some lawn chemicals in the dirt.2. Are there ANY Walnut trees near? #. The third isn't a question,rather more of a comment on the fine suggestions so far, the soil could have too much decomposing grass and roots in it which will affect the nitrogen levels of the dirt. Let Us know and we will all be here helping you.....PHIL

Yep, that's what I was wondering about Phil!!!

spring Chicken,
When you rototill your soil,
you rototill in the growth from the surface
under into the dirt, and while that is good,
in way, puts in decomposting "green"~nitrogen,
but you have to give it time to break down
way before you plant...
As the the the growth from the surface that was tilled under is decomposing...it robs the soil of nitrogen to get it's job done of decomposing....

Now when you planted the veggies and this stuff is decomposing underneath, it's stealing nitrogen from your plants' roots... So the plant reacts and because it is starved for nitrogen......

What I might do is, find some dry fertilizer you dissolve in water, check the numbers on the side of the container, you want the first number to be higher than the last 2 (ie; 20~10~10) give your plants a drink of that stuff, and drench the leaves as well as the rooting area!!!
(This will give you a quick fix for your starving plant, the leaves will give it a good foliar feed as well.) Follow the directions for it............
But not toooooo many times, or too much, you're experiencing the one spectrum of too little nitrogen, you can burn your plants if you give your plant too much nitrogen....
Maybe do the liquid fertiler once or twice when you water, and find some rabbit manure, VERY OLD chicken, something like that and spread on top, maybe scratch it in a bit, not too deep so you don't disturb the roots....
Remember, too much can cause burning!!!

Give that a try and let us know!!!

Weezie

If I've confused you, don't hesitate to ask me to clearify something, heck I confuse <img border="0" alt="[perplexed]" title="" src="graemlins/confused.gif" /> myself sometimes!!!

Hi Phil, Yes the part of the garden in question was new lawn before. No lawn chemicals were used and no walnut trees.
Thanks!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="COMIC SANS MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">quote:</font><hr /><font size="3" face="COMIC SANS MS, Verdana, Helvetica, sans-serif">Originally posted by weezie13:
<strong> Yep, that's what I was wondering about Phil!!!

spring Chicken,
When you rototill your soil,
you rototill in the growth from the surface
under into the dirt, and while that is good,
in way, puts in decomposting "green"~nitrogen,
but you have to give it time to break down
way before you plant...
As the the the growth from the surface that was tilled under is decomposing...it robs the soil of nitrogen to get it's job done of decomposing....

Now when you planted the veggies and this stuff is decomposing underneath, it's stealing nitrogen from your plants' roots... So the plant reacts and because it is starved for nitrogen......

What I might do is, find some dry fertilizer you dissolve in water, check the numbers on the side of the container, you want the first number to be higher than the last 2 (ie; 20~10~10) give your plants a drink of that stuff, and drench the leaves as well as the rooting area!!!
(This will give you a quick fix for your starving plant, the leaves will give it a good foliar feed as well.) Follow the directions for it............
But not toooooo many times, or too much, you're experiencing the one spectrum of too little nitrogen, you can burn your plants if you give your plant too much nitrogen....
Maybe do the liquid fertiler once or twice when you water, and find some rabbit manure, VERY OLD chicken, something like that and spread on top, maybe scratch it in a bit, not too deep so you don't disturb the roots....
Remember, too much can cause burning!!!

Give that a try and let us know!!!

Weezie

If I've confused you, don't hesitate to ask me to clearify something, heck I confuse

NO ! flowers and non-edibles ONLY, You better wait a few years for edibles, QUITE A FEW

Ditto, Ditto, Ditto!!
For me too, what Phil said!!!

oh, yuckie~poop~poo :p :p :p

Never Dog or Cat feces!!
(Carries bacteria's)

Weezie

reseeding in grass! actually I was leaning that way anyway, but would like a bigger garden. maybe in a few more years.
Thanks everyone!
sc

spring Chicken,
No other places to put the bed???

Container gardening??
Big 5 gallon buckets and trough's for this year???

Weezie

I have several other choices and about 20 old 8 foot locust post for the bed frame. I'll just move it to the side yard, plenty of room there, With that and the garden I have started it will keep me plenty busy!
sc

Hi spring Chicken,
You can remove the sod where that new garden bed will be, take it out with a good square nose shovel , in chunks, and put it in low or bald spots in your lawn, water it ALOT

Yuppers, already started doing it!
Thanks!!
sc

Just an update, sorry i've been quite busy here and my online time has been limited.
The yellowing plants are now a deep lush green and getting huge! thanks for the advise!
SC

Hey spring Chicken
THANK~YOU FOR THE UPDATE!!
We really appreciate it!!

We're very glad to help those looking for answers, but it's so much more fun, when
someone comes back and tells us the out come!!
(**Good or Bad***) We like to know!
Not only does it help those who answer the
questions, but for future gardeners who come
thru and look thru the old threads for their
gardening questions!!!

I'm very happy for you plant too!!!

Weezie

P.S. How's the garden doing???
Would love to know!!!!

P.S. How's the garden doing???
Would love to know!!!!

Hey Weezie13,
The garden is doing great! brocoli,red & green cabbage,brussel sprouts all are growing fast and green. My tomatoes and peppers are right up there too! Okra has sprouted up about 2 inches. I can hardly wait to start eating fresh garden veggies!
It sure is a blast to watch this garden grow.
SC

Oh do tell me more about that Did you start it from seed???

My mother picked up a package, she likes it, and always liked picking up one thing to grow she'd never grown before, that's her pick this year! :rolleyes:
I haven't grown it from seed,
any pointers????????

Weezie

Our okra is clemson spinless, we saved the seeds from last years crop. For me it seems okra takes longer to sprout than most other seeds. Directly sown in the garden and keep em watered. I like mine fried and never seemed to get enough :-)

spring Chicken,
How early do you direct seed in the garden?
Does the soil have to be warm or can it be cool??

I'm direct seeding my peas and lettuce right now,
but it is still cold up here, will get down to the upper 20's tomorrow night!!!
After that it's supposed to start warming up a little, but just curious as for the orka,
some seeds need warm to sprout, other's preferr cool???

Thanks for all your help!!!
Weezie

Weezie,
The okra we waited until I thought the soil did warm up a bit and all frost was over. I had over sewn the rows just to make sure I had enough sprout, I really had to thin them out. It may have been the reason it seemed to have taken so long to sprout,they must like warmer soil.
My loofah sponges and gourds are starting to pop up like crazy now. I planted them all along our fence rows