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Hello all,

I am new here and this is my first post. I am also new at this forum-type posting, so I may need some help from time to time.

I'm not much of an outside gardener, but am really in to houseplants. My favs are shamrocks (obvious?).

I have heard so much about this forum, for months now, from my cousin -- afgreyparrot. I'm sure the regulars here know her. She invited me here.

I'm really not sure what to say at the moment but hope that I can fit in and maybe get and give some gardening advice in the future.

Les

LES!!! You made it!
Nice to see you!

O.K. First rule of the forum is kinda like...you remember the Vegas trip in '93? Well, same rule applies here.

What happens on the forum STAYS on the forum!


Thank you for joining!

Cindy

Hi Shamrock I'm really glad Cindy invited you to join

G-Mom

HEY! I resemble that remark!

I PROMISE...we won't hold that against you!



G-Mom

Hi Gardenmom!!!

Glad to finally meet you. I've heard a lot about you.

Thanks for the wonderful welcome, and please DON'T hold it against me that afgrey's my cuz. She is a great cousin, actually. I'm glad she can remember what happened in Vegas in 93.

I have really enjoyed the time I've been on here so far, and it was only one night. AND I have learned a whole lot. I am just an amateur so I need all the help I can get!

Oh, I'm glad you made it through all the hurricanes okay.

Les

You SHOULDN'T be glad!

cin

Hi Shamrock~

Welcome, Welcome!

Merme

Hey Sham! Welcome to our great forum!

You'll learn a lot here and have fun doing it !

Lesson # 1:The toilet paper goes under!


I'm glad you remembered that.

LESSON #2 - We can politely DISAGREE here!
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Cindy

Ahhm, No, I Said it goes .....................


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Now, let's not start this again , Cindy. You're embarrasing yourself in front of your cousin ( yeah, like that's never happened)

Rule #3: Be nice to other forum members!

O V E R ! ! !

UNDER

O V E R ! ! ! ! !

(If you don't stop this I'm gonna tell on you!)

If you don't stop, you'll both be using maple leaves!

Oh.....Hi, Bill!

Uhhh...melcon was trying to start a fight with me.

(I didn't think you read these posts!)

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Your humble servant,
Cindy

:p Nah ah, She started it!

melcon-----> <-----afgrey!

Uh, ACTUALLY ladies, the proper way is OVER BECAUSE.....

You are supposed to take the flat edge and make it into a handsome point by tucking the two sides under. This also puts the design on top AND makes it easy for the person to grab the end.

So says the woman who doesn't even put it on the wall mount because the mount isn't accessible any more, so mine just stands up sideways on the sink counter. Which Maxi occasionally knocks over into the sink to get all wet....

Ah, to have a genteel home again someday!
Merme

When Martha Stewart gets out of prison I'll invite her to join the forum, and she can set melcon straight!


Cindy

Sorry, nobody can set me straight, I'm as warped as they come!

Here is the "Official" word on T.P. Straight from Gertie

Gertie Delves into the Great Toilet Paper Debate
Gertrude Butterbean [©Angela Gillaspie 2004]

Being the self-appointed southern sovereign for the code of behavior in the bathroom, many of y'all have sent me heartfelt requests for help. The issue I'm touching on today has been known to wreck marriages, blow up family reunions, and make Uncle Chester abandon his crapper and head for the outhouse.

My email box has been filled to the brim to resolve this horrible dilemma: What is the right way to hang toilet paper?


As far as myself goes, the placement of toilet paper is a non-issue since I just set the roll on the back of my toilet on top of my Popular Mechanic magazines. If I'm going to have guests that I want to impress (the preacher or my nickel poker buddies), I might slide the roll down on the plunger next to the toilet to give my bathroom that rustic look.

Anyway, back to the question - what's the "right" way to hang the toilet paper? After polling folks on the Internet, up there at Winn Dixie, over at Wal-Mart, and down yunder at the post office, I found out:

51% of folks hang it with the paper dangling over the top.
24% hang it with the paper dangling at the back.
14% of folks say that they hang it whichever way they can get it on the roll the fastest.
11% ain't got no toilet paper holder.
1% said, "Daggum, I'm a guy! I don't know how to change that toilet paper thang!"
Less than 1% (actually 0.03%) didn't know what toilet paper was.
Of course this only answers the question about how most folks hang their toilet paper, it doesn't address the question of what the "right" way is to hang it.

Before I answer that question, I'd like to take a minute and look at all the different types of toilet paper holders there are. First off, here in my neck of the woods most folks (unless they live down there in the city) don't have toilet paper holders. It don't bother us none - we just set the roll on top of the tank, on the edge of the garbage can or edge of the sink.

In government buildings, gas stations, and fast food joints they have those institutional holders where the roll slides on sideways. These vertical holders allow for the owners to put them big four-foot spools of sandpaper-type toilet paper on them. When I was pregnant, my husband (God Bless him) offered to get me one of those so I'd only have to change the roll three times a week instead of three times a day. What a man!


Hey, I wonder if them government boys are upset about whether those rolls are hung right or left?

Everybody's got an opinion on the pros and cons of hanging the roll "over" versus "under", and here's what I found out:

As far as being fashionable, the "over" position wins. I visited those nicer hotels (the ones that charge at least $24.95 overnight) and saw that they hung their roll with the paper dangling over the top and then they took the end sheet and folded it into this little fancy triangle. I don't rightly know what that triangle-sheet is for - seems like a waste to me, well, unless you tear off that end sheet and use it to clean out from under your fingernails while you finish your bidness or sumthin'.
If you have toddlers or cats, you should hang it in the "under" position - it doesn't unroll as easily.
If you have boys, by putting the roll in the "over" position, the paper is just begging to be used. This way, the boys will want to use it and you won't have to soak their drawers as long to get out their skid marks.
If you choose a print, you must hang it in the "over" position or the print on the paper will be upside down.
It is easier to grasp if the paper is in the "over" position, of course on the flip side, reaching to the back is just as easy - unless static cling makes the paper stick to the wall.
Standing men prefer the roll over-the-top. I didn't ask why. They scared me.
A physics professor in the "under" camp offered this analysis: To get the paper to turn requires a certain torque, which comes from the tension in the paper being withdrawn. The greater the distance between the plane of the paper being pulled and the axle support line, the less force is required and the less chance of tearing the paper before you have enough. Uh, yeah.

So the "right" way to hang toilet paper? It depends on what person or critter will be using your toilet and what kind of holder (if any) you got. But, if I just have to choose, then I'll vote for the "over" position.


All this toilet tissue talk has got me to thinking about what I want to get Momma for Christmas this year. She ain't got no toilet paper holder, so I'm gonna install her a nice one. Maybe one of those that have a radio in it so that she can listen to Conway Twitty as she reflects on life's deep meaning. Hey and maybe a cup holder so that she can sip her sassafras tea and meditate on the throne ... ooh, and a telephone jack just in case she is going to be there a while and might want to check her email. I definitely will get her a matching magazine holder for all those Guideposts and Enquirer magazines she dearly loves.

Which way would she hang her roll? Why in the "over" position, of course!

G-Mom

I win!

I WIN! ! !

Thanks for the warm welcome, guys... I really appreciate it. I may be a little slow for awhile, until I get to know you. Of course, Cin can help me out some, since I already feel like you all are family.

Now, if you want to talk to someone, do you post here, make a new subject... what do you do? We can't go on and on with this t.p. thing.

Les

Oh hi again Sham honey ~

You wanna chat? Here's what you do.

You can go over to The Banter Hall and read the messages already posted and jump right in on the end of one.

Or...you can hit the button that reads Start New Topic. And write away to your hearts content. Somebody will come along and answer you sooner or later, although they may not stay on the original topic you introduced. It is still lively.

Or you can check out the Gardener's chat.

Oh, and not to worry....we CAN'T go on and on about TP because there is a limit to how many posts can go onto one topic. If they hit 100 posts, it has to be closed, and the conversation picked up with a new thread. So really, we could go on about 80 more posts about TP if you wanna.

Merme

Scroll down in the main forum page and post wherever (how do you spell "where ever"?) appropriate.
Just like you did here.

Call me and I will help you out.


BTW...how do you hang YOUR toilet paper?

Cin

MERME...YOU OWE ME A BEER!!!

les.....
What are you drinking tonight?

(Not that we DRINK on the forum!)

(Friends don't let friends post drunk!)

cin

I'm going to have to start taking notes to remember everything. When you get to this spot, I need to re-read what I just read so that I can reply better. Well, I guess it will take me awhile to get the hang of this.

OK, cin. wherever is spelled like that (wherever). The toilet paper hanging, whichever way I can get it on that cheap little hanger I have. But, I'll have to say that it actually would go over, since they do fix it special that way (in the motels). I guess -- who knows. Maybe they are doing it wrong... It doesn't really matter to me. Actually hadn't given it any thought at all -- until they were talking about it at work one day.

OMG -- I just thought of kind of a pun, but probably shouldn't say it on here.

I had went back to "houseplants" and checked this out again before I went in the kitchen, and all these posts were here. What a thrill!

"chardonnay"

Les

seems like there was something else I was going to say... i'll have to look back.

You'll get the hang of it REAL fast!

Call me if you want and I'll "talk you through"!

(and the phone rings now......!)

cin

Hi, Les . . . or Sham, whatever you'd prefer.

I'm from Toronto, Canada and just love this garden forum. Such a great bunch of people here.

I joined recently myself and can't stay away.

Hi Sham
l can guarantee you will need to find extra free time to go on the forum
You will be as addicted as all of us. l am also a house plant lover, so will look forward to your querie's regarding them.
l am now looking forward to a double helping of tete-au-tete, between you and cindy

Welcome to the best gardeners forum around

Thanks to everybody for all the warm welcomes. I guess I'll see you around...

Les

les...
You checked out the "game room" yet?

You can drink there!

Me and Gardenmom------>

(I'm the one on the left!)

Yeah, right... You must have forgotten the camping trip.

If you tell them that, I will have to kill you!

I would never do that. Don't worry.

btw - can i call you?

Can I call YOU?

Here's how we can call without a phone ringing...

you call my cell phone. I will already be on it talking to "time and temp", and I will answer the beeeeeep. Then it won't ring.

You ready?

Cell phone in hand.....walking outside....


GO!