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Posted By: floweringchild dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - August 24th, 2006 at 01:45 PM
Hey ya'll,

I segwayed over to my own topic on pink hibiscus as I wanted to show them and chat about them as well.

These two hibsicus are my latest purchase!

I was out of town recently and came across pink Luna hibiscus for sale. I had never heard of Luna hibiscus and regrettably passed on a purchase.

Several weeks later, I noticed a neighbor several blocks over and "down the street" was having a plant sale and was selling large hibsicus plants. I stopped by and asked if they were lunas. He said no, these were his hybrid and he cultivated his own, 10" and 11" hibiscus and that I would not find any like these around town. Needless to say I purchased two, a pink and red.

Here's a pic of the red. To me it's hot pink but what do I know right? smile
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Posted By: floweringchild Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - August 24th, 2006 at 01:54 PM
Here's a pic of my pink Hibiscus.
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The pink Hibiscus came with a card.

Sparkle Pink Jewel PPAF
Perennial Hibiscus

I think patches1414 asked in the other thread if I knew the name of hibiscus and if it was hardy or perennial.

Here's the description of the plant according to the card.

Light pink petals with darker pink sparkly dots that catch the sun and sparkle in the wind. Full 11" flowers with a bright red eye.

Compact 36" plants.

Thrives in full sun.

Water and fertilize generously. Keep seed pods removed for continuous flowering.

Cut back foliage to ground after killing frost. Plants grow from roots in spring.

My red/hot pink Hibiscus did not have a card so I asked the gentleman the name of it, he said he called it "Red Hibiscus".

I was told just tonight I can get seeds from the flowers that drop off, just to dry the flowers out. Hey ya'll I'll have seeds.

What does the seed pod look like that is described on the card? Any more info on acquiring these seeds?

Input, comments etc. welcomed! wavey
Posted By: kennyso Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - August 24th, 2006 at 02:07 PM
wow, hugh! I got hardy hibiscus seeds but they never sprouted for me frown I'm pretty sure there should be like a seedpod that develops when the flower falls off.
Posted By: floweringchild Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - August 25th, 2006 at 03:51 AM
Hi kennyso,

Yeah, this morning I went out to look at the Hibiscus and there were several blooms that had fallen. I see the seed pod left on the plant. I pulled several off and I suppose I should dry them out?
Thanks kennyso. wavey
Suggestions, comments welcomed!

Stephanie
Posted By: TulsaRose Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - August 25th, 2006 at 05:40 AM
Stephanie, the seed pods need to be left on the plant in order to fully develop and ripen until the pod turns brown and very dry.

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Posted By: gardenfairy Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - August 25th, 2006 at 10:11 AM
Yes Stephanie, you need to leave the seed pods on the plant and let them dry out on their own. I just got a seed pod off of my hibiscus this morning. It appears you have a hardy hibiscus.
Posted By: floweringchild Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - August 26th, 2006 at 05:29 AM
TulsaRose & gardenfairy,

Thanks for the info regarding the seed pods. I had already taken 6 off recently but they were not dried out. The seeds are black. I put them on my window ledge for drying. Will that work?

I will leave the remaining pods on plants until dry. TulsaRose, thanks for the pic. What color is your hibiscus?

gardenfairy, the card states Perennial Hibiscus.

The man I purchased the two plants from says to put them in the ground asap. I really do not want to as I do not have a good place as they require full sun and pushed for space in my small courtyard garden :rolleyes: . I may transplant them to the extra pots they are sitting in. confused Suggestions anyone?
Posted By: TulsaRose Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - August 26th, 2006 at 06:47 AM
Stephanie, you can safely plant your Hibiscus in morning sun\afternoon shade and they will do quite well there considering the afternoon heat in your zone. They really need to be in the ground to get a good, deep root system established.

A word of caution about collecting seeds. Since they are from "hybrids" the seed grown plants may not be the same color as the mama. To get an exact replica of your plant, you need to take cuttings and root them.

Since you have already taken seeds while the pods were green, I doubt they will be viable but you can always try. Just don't mix them with ones you take later that you know for sure are ripe.

I had been growing a white\red eye that was my mothers...probably a thirty+ yr old plant...lost it over the winter due to drought conditions. Fortunately, I had seeds saved from it and now have two nice starts that will bloom next year. I also have a solid red that was rescued from a neighbors yard after their dog had chewed it to the ground. I don't know if it will bloom next year or not. It is really struggling. All are getting lots of TLC. wink
Posted By: patches1414 Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - August 26th, 2006 at 10:07 PM
Wow, floweringchild, I love your Hibiscus flw flw flw I agree with you that the red one sure looks like hot pink! wink I love the other pink one too! luv
Posted By: gardenfairy Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - August 27th, 2006 at 04:34 AM
Floweringchild, I agree with Rosie, you really should plant them in the ground so they can establish and root system. My two are growing their little hearts out, I can't believe that have gotten as big as they have. The seeds pods that you have taken off already probably will not have any viable seeds, they need to stay on the plant until it is dried out. Good Luck with your little beauties!!
Posted By: Triss Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - August 27th, 2006 at 04:39 AM
Beautiful flowers!!! I hope they do really well for you!
Posted By: floweringchild Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - August 27th, 2006 at 12:57 PM
TulsaRose,
I need to find a spot in my garden but pushed for ground space. wavey wavey
Posted By: plants 'n pots Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - August 27th, 2006 at 01:10 PM
Those are stunning flowers - very healthy looking too!
Posted By: Triss Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - August 27th, 2006 at 01:12 PM
Thanks Stephanie. kissies
Posted By: patches1414 Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - August 27th, 2006 at 06:09 PM
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I'm sure I'll be looking for advice from you when I plant seeds. Should I plant seeds in small containers first then transplant, and when do I plant seeds?
Floweringchild, I am in Zone 5 so by the time the seed pods turn brown it's already too late to plant the seeds in the ground in this area! frown I have to start the seeds indoors because they need to be in warm (at least 70 degrees) soil for approximately 2-4 weeks to germinate. wink

This is what I do with my Hardy Hibiscus seeds and it works for me (with about a 50% success rate)! smile I scarify (nick) the seeds and soak them in fairly hot water for 1 hour to make it easier for moisture to enter. Then I plant the seeds in pots of Pro-Mix and keep them under grow lights in an area where the temperature will be about 70-78 degrees F. After the danger of frost has passed, I plant them in the ground or give them away to friends. wink

NOTE: You need only to scrape or nick the seed to break the surface to get a good result. You can use a small file, sandpaper or fingernail clippers, which is what I use to nick the coating of the seed. wink Be careful not to nick the seed too deep near the site of the embryo because this would make the seed not viable. frown Germination should take between 14-30 days.
Posted By: dodge Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - August 29th, 2006 at 11:37 AM
flowergirl.....

Looks like Heaven sent.....Gorgous .. Hot pink the first looked like to me.....
Large for sure.
Bet it grabs all the attention on your block?/

Good job/.....Just when we think they wont bloom ..Presto there they go.

dodge..........good job...hope it rubs off on me.
Posted By: floweringchild Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - August 31st, 2006 at 02:52 PM
Hi plants 'n pots wavey

First time I am seeing a post from you! Great!
Thanks!!! wink flw

patches 1414
Fantastic info regarding planting seeds. I'll be sure to keep this info in a safe place! I'm in zone 9 so it sounds like I will be safe in planting seeds flw in the ground at this time. Ya think?

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Posted By: patches1414 Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - August 31st, 2006 at 09:04 PM
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I'm in zone 9 so it sounds like I will be safe in planting seeds in the ground at this time. Ya think?
Floweringchild, I really don't know anything about your zone, Duh but I'm guessing you would be safe planting the seeds in the ground. However, when I am planting seeds for special flowers like Hibiscus, as opposed to the annual ones where I may scatter a whole package of seeds, I prefer to plant them in a pot so I can keep a closer eye them them and tend to their needs. wink Even if I could plant my Hibiscus seeds in the ground here, I wouldn't! frown I assume you're not trying to get a couple dozen Hibiscus plants. wink Although if you're planting seeds, be aware that only about 50% of the Hibiscus seeds will sprout. frown
Posted By: floweringchild Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - September 2nd, 2006 at 05:21 PM
patches1414,

That makes very good sense. And, since I only have very few of these treasured dinnerplate hibiscus seeds, I'll do just that!

Thanks
Posted By: patches1414 Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - September 2nd, 2006 at 06:18 PM
Floweringchild, I'm really glad to hear you're doing this because I think your chances of success will be much greater! smile I've grown many Hibiscus seeds in pots and they did well! When I used to plant seeds in the ground I never knew if the squirrels dug then up or the birds ate them or they just didn't make it! Duh By doing it this way, I know a little more about what's going on! wink wink
Posted By: ButtonsMom Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - September 3rd, 2006 at 12:18 AM
wavey Love your pictures; hibiscus is a beautiful flower! I carefully watched mine for three years without a hint of a blossom, but this year (just when I was ready to give up) I have 10" blooms. Since I do the floral arranging for my church, I'd like to use 2-3 blooms for tomorrow's service. Problem is we are expecting heavy rain later today. Last week the rain tore apart any blooms I had. If I cut some this morning, do you think they would last a day or two, or will they just shrivel up on me?
Posted By: TulsaRose Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - September 3rd, 2006 at 12:56 AM
ButtonsMom, the Hibiscus blooms only last one day so you might try cutting them just before you leave the house. Or try cutting a stem with almost ready-to-open buds???
Posted By: dodge Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - September 3rd, 2006 at 01:23 AM
Rosie

correct on that one.. It is a longggggggggggggggg journey till they bloom and then it is only one day..
Took 2 years for mine to bloom......Is that the standard proceedure?
They are nice but......I prefer the all summer fall bloomers to those.....Like zinnias or morning glories .....

dodge teech
Posted By: dodge Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - September 3rd, 2006 at 01:58 AM
patches,

Check out this
usna.usda.gov/Hardzone/hzm-ne1.html

You said you was zone 9..........your not

Illinois is zone 5b according to this page.
I am 6a

penna

dodge
Posted By: melcon6 Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - September 3rd, 2006 at 03:07 AM
Dodge, I'm pretty sure Patches/Patti knows what zone she is, she was just quoting another person, Floweringchild/Stephanie who lives in Louisianna and is probably zone 9. thumbup
Posted By: dodge Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - September 3rd, 2006 at 03:11 AM
ok.............

dodge
Posted By: patches1414 Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - September 3rd, 2006 at 11:09 PM
Dodge, Mel is right I was just quoting about the zone floweringchild said she was in. I've always thought I was in zone 5, but the zone map for my city and zip code says I'm in zone 6A! thumbup

I did start some of my white ones from seeds two years ago and some of them did bloom the first year they were in the ground. thumbup
Posted By: dodge Re: dinnerplate hibiscus-pink & red/hot pink - September 4th, 2006 at 01:48 AM
Lucky you.

I printed that list to keep my memory up .
Zonie is a zoo.

;o)

dodge
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