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Posted By: Anonymous bachelor buttons? - November 21st, 2003 at 10:22 PM
we always had a plant we called bachelor buttons, but it wasn't the blue flower i see when i do a search. it is a plant that grows similar to monkey grass but the "bloom" is a compact little white flower taht is no bigger than a med size shirt button. Any clues on what this is??? I would like to get some!
Posted By: boxmonkey Re: bachelor buttons? - November 22nd, 2003 at 12:16 PM
Try these:

Field Milkwort
more

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Polygala

are these anything like what you're thinking of?
Posted By: lizheaemma Re: bachelor buttons? - November 22nd, 2003 at 05:07 PM
I think I only want to keep sayinging this plant because I grew it with bachalors buttons last year but her goes! I had also never seen baby's breath in a garden untill I grew it and was like.. what is that, that's not what floral baby's breath looks like!

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Posted By: weezie13 Re: bachelor buttons? - November 22nd, 2003 at 05:34 PM
Boxmonkey,
I absolutely love that green one, milkwort???
Beautiful color!!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: bachelor buttons? - November 22nd, 2003 at 08:50 PM
Liz, your baby's breath is gorgeous. Boxmonkey, your pictures are great. Weezie, I agree they are all beautiful

BUT - frown not it frown

the best way to describe it to you is the clumps grow like monkey grass, but the blades are much shorter and finer. the flowers are on long single stems with no leaves and the flower heads are like the inside of a mum only very tiny and very very compact. not at all soft or even soft looking. almost bright white on green stems with green grass. the stems are no bigger around than a wire coat hanger if that big and about 6-8 inches long.

Thanks for your help!
Posted By: lizheaemma Re: bachelor buttons? - November 22nd, 2003 at 11:08 PM
Kay here's another one! ????

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Family: Melanthiaceae
Type: Perennial
Common: Fly poison
Posted By: lizheaemma Re: bachelor buttons? - November 22nd, 2003 at 11:16 PM
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Amianthium muscaetoxicum

know isn't that tricky the pic I tried to link was broken up into peices, here are the flower peice
Posted By: Anonymous Re: bachelor buttons? - November 22nd, 2003 at 11:44 PM
closer, but not quite...
Posted By: lizheaemma Re: bachelor buttons? - November 23rd, 2003 at 12:36 AM
so I'm guessing that i'm off on the flower and close on the foliage?
Do you remember that time of year that it bloomed
area that it grew in? wet? Dry?
was it like a crocus or a flowering rush?

this is fun!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: bachelor buttons? - November 23rd, 2003 at 12:47 AM
they are just finishing blooming now. you are right on the foliage. the ground around them is fairly high & dry, but the area is like all of the southeast, not far from the water table. sandy soil. bright light, not sure if it is full sun or not. gotta check on that. there is a trailer not far (5-6 miles) that has a few growing beside it. the grass clumps are like daylilies or monkey grass, but finer and lower leaves/fronds.
I really appreciate the help in searching for this!
Posted By: lizheaemma Re: bachelor buttons? - November 23rd, 2003 at 05:40 AM
Am I getting any closer?

http://www.ces.ncsu.edu/depts/hort/consumer/poison/images/tradevi1.htm
Posted By: weezie13 Re: bachelor buttons? - November 23rd, 2003 at 05:55 AM
Okay Jiffy,
I'm getting into this one too???

Blue~eyed grass

Weezie Blue eyed grass #2
Posted By: papito Re: bachelor buttons? - November 23rd, 2003 at 06:16 AM
Info on Bachelor's Buttons at:

http://aggie-horticulture.tamu.edu/southerngarden/bachelor.html


Color range: purple, rose, orange and white.
Posted By: weezie13 Re: bachelor buttons? - November 23rd, 2003 at 06:25 AM
Jiffy,

more bachelor buttons
Weezie


knap weed, centauras
Posted By: Anonymous Re: bachelor buttons? - November 24th, 2003 at 03:02 AM
Nope, none of the above. not in the corn flower category at all. flowers are white (never seen any other color). clumps of grass have thin, narrow blades that are about 2-3 inches long. liz got close with one of the sites in the foliage part.
Posted By: weezie13 Re: bachelor buttons? - November 24th, 2003 at 04:37 AM
Jiffy,
Got any pictures???????????

Weezie
Posted By: Anonymous Re: bachelor buttons? - November 24th, 2003 at 07:37 PM
wish i did!
Posted By: lizheaemma Re: bachelor buttons? - November 25th, 2003 at 04:26 AM
Dracula carderii

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Dendrochilum tenellum

http://www.hortusb.com/ode2t.html

maybe, maybe not?

what do the flowers look like?
Posted By: Anonymous Re: bachelor buttons? - November 25th, 2003 at 04:29 PM
right color, wrong shape. the flowers remind me in shape, of the chocolate non-pariels (sp?). almost like a super miniature mum head. very hard and just under 1/2 inch in diameter.
Posted By: weezie13 Re: bachelor buttons? - November 25th, 2003 at 04:47 PM
ok, does it look like a pincushion.
Like a scabiosa???


scabiosa

Weezie
Posted By: Anonymous Re: bachelor buttons? - November 25th, 2003 at 10:11 PM
weezie, the shape of the top of that flower is closer. only really compact and hard. and the "petals" are very small.
Posted By: weezie13 Re: bachelor buttons? - November 25th, 2003 at 11:05 PM
Lizheaemma,


Does this flower match yours???

Gypsophilia Elegans

Weezie
Posted By: weezie13 Re: bachelor buttons? - November 25th, 2003 at 11:06 PM
Jiffy,
I'm getting stumped on yours,
but I'll keep thinkin'!!!
Weezie
Posted By: papito Re: bachelor buttons? - December 15th, 2003 at 04:56 PM
more on bachelor's button:

http://www.florvertical.com/ingles/galeria/ver_foto.cfm?foto=2596

http://www.florvertical.com/ingles/galeria/ver_foto.cfm?foto=15308

http://www.veseys.com/store.cfm?product=503&referer_cat=653
Posted By: lizheaemma Re: bachelor buttons? - December 29th, 2003 at 08:24 PM
I recieved a new book for christmas and I got a new idea..... might it be.....

Hatpins or syngonanthus flavidulus
http://www.virtualherbarium.org/lf/erioc.jpg

This links not great! But it's the only pic I could find!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: bachelor buttons? - December 29th, 2003 at 09:09 PM
thumbup I am about 90% sure that YOU GOT IT RIGHT!! <img border="0" alt="[clappy]" title="" src="graemlins/clappy.gif" /> Thank you so very much!! I got a digital camera for Christmas and I will try to take a picture of it this spring! Thanks again!!
Posted By: Anonymous Re: bachelor buttons? - December 29th, 2003 at 09:16 PM
ok, after doing some research, i think it is called small's bog button and you can find pictures and information at the plant atlas of Florida
Liz, I think the latin name for the one i was looking for is Lachnocaulon minus and it is a relative of the one you found.
Posted By: catlover Re: bachelor buttons? - December 29th, 2003 at 09:18 PM
Ohhh Jiffy those darn boxes and red X....try again please!!!!
Posted By: weezie13 Re: bachelor buttons? - December 29th, 2003 at 09:26 PM
Jiffy, I didn't see the pictures' either,
I could see lizheaemma's though,
I don't think I've seen one before.....

Weezie
Posted By: Anonymous Re: bachelor buttons? - December 29th, 2003 at 09:26 PM
karen, i had to edit the post because the link wouldn't work... so... click on the url link and you can get to see all kinds of them... also, i found a site where they were referred to as "bog bachelor buttons"! so my memory isn't that faulty after all!! Thanks Liz for finding it for me!
Posted By: lizheaemma Re: bachelor buttons? - December 29th, 2003 at 09:31 PM
excellent! bog button was my next guess (lachnocaulon anceps) or another close relative is (eriocaulon septangulare) pipewort all members of thr pipewort family (eriocaulaceae) and the button part would really fit into you puzzle!

wink
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