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type of compost #97292
March 20th, 2007 at 03:43 PM
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I have "dairy compost" on my raised vegetable garden. I was told that it had been cured and it would be fine to grow vegetables in it. I now have tomatoes, cabbage, peppers, squash, onions, broccoli, lettece, cauliflower and snap beans. The cabbage and cauliflower however, just keep growing leaves and their heads have not formed. (have not added any fertilizer)

Do I have to add some fertilizer? All the other veggies are doing fine.


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Re: type of compost #97293
March 20th, 2007 at 04:01 PM
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If they look healthy enough, maybe they just aren't ready yet. Cabbages don't form hearts immediately. Caulis heads are actually the flower of the plant and should form once the plant is a decent size. How big are they? Do you have a foto?


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Re: type of compost #97294
March 20th, 2007 at 11:14 PM
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My only quick thought would be if
there's cow manure and too much of it,
*which is a source of nitrogen*
Nitrogen grows leaves and doesn't really
give the extra boost for making flowers..


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Re: type of compost #97295
March 20th, 2007 at 11:46 PM
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Originally posted by weezie13:
My only quick thought would be if
there's cow manure and too much of it,
*which is a source of nitrogen*
Nitrogen grows leaves and doesn't really
give the extra boost for making flowers..
so what should a person use with the manure to help w/the flowering ?

Re: type of compost #97296
March 20th, 2007 at 11:48 PM
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Thank you for the feedback. Perhaps they are not ready yet Longy. I will attempt to post some pictures of them (I am not proficient in posting pictures) so please be patient.

Weezie 13 made an important point. The compost is 100% cow do do . However, my tomatoes and other veggies are doing fine. However, too much nitrogen could be the culprit.

I will attempt to post some pictures so that you can get a better idea of what I am talking about.


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Re: type of compost #97297
March 21st, 2007 at 12:47 AM
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I would use straight compost...

~~~>Carino, Can you get your hands on some of that????

Compost and Dairy Compost are two different things...
One is straight cow manure, just aged..
*some do put in saw dust and let it sit and render down*
But compost, when done, is totaled balanced
*NO MATTER WHAT YOU PUT IN IT*
It comes out balanced.
**even if you load it with acid leaves believe it or not.. the natural composting process,
brings it back to neutral *well, on the alkaline side* but most plants grow well in those conditions..**


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Re: type of compost #97298
March 21st, 2007 at 01:10 AM
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Here are the pictures of what I have planted in dairy compost


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Re: type of compost #97299
March 21st, 2007 at 01:14 AM
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OOOOOPS, sorry for the large picture. I really dont know what I am doing. I followed the suggestions on your web site.

Weezie13, thank you for the information. Guess Longy was right about being a bit too early to form the "flowers"


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Re: type of compost #97300
March 21st, 2007 at 01:15 AM
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Those still look young to me...

When or how long ago did you you plant them??


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Re: type of compost #97301
March 21st, 2007 at 01:25 AM
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Here is a smaller photo of my raised garden (I hope)


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Re: type of compost #97302
March 21st, 2007 at 01:27 AM
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I planted them approx. 35 days ago. I planted them the same time I planted the brocolli.

Thank you for taking the time to educate me.


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Re: type of compost #97303
March 21st, 2007 at 01:34 AM
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The broccoli I have grown has gotten almost 3' high, and will be 2 1/2' across. I say give them time and when they are ready you will know.

Also you can cut the crowns and the plants will still produce side shoots.


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Re: type of compost #97304
March 21st, 2007 at 01:36 AM
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Heyyyy no problem... thumbup
Always glad to help!! grinnnn

Did you grow them from seed or previously started plants?

And I would love to see a bigger picture of that raised bed... Looks good from what I can see...
*size up to 480 x 640*


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Re: type of compost #97305
March 21st, 2007 at 02:25 AM
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Weezie13 Here is a larger view (I hope). I have 4 of them approx. 3x10 feet. I used 3 cubic yards of diary compost. some of the veggies are store bought (3 inch pots) and some I grew from seed.

I also made some smaller raised beds for roses and shrubs because around here the dirt has a lot of clay.


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Re: type of compost #97306
March 21st, 2007 at 02:30 AM
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You're a man after me'own heart...
Those beds are awesome...

I wish I had all that dairy compost..
I have to make my own *regular* compost..
And it takes alot to admend the soil...

Well, if those were seeds, I'd still be
waiting on some flowers, eventually...
It does take a wee~bit of time!!!


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Re: type of compost #97307
March 21st, 2007 at 02:31 AM
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Okay, what is on the third bed on the
right side of that PB photo????
Very curious...


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Re: type of compost #97308
March 21st, 2007 at 02:37 AM
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ok quick question bare w/me i'm still new @ this ... we live on a farm w/cattle and use straight cow manure out of the cattle yard, alot of it is OLD, like many many years old and some is newer ~ this is all i used last year and my flowers seemed to do well w/it. But if i do veggies should i do anything differently w/it like add anything to it or anything ?

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Re: type of compost #97309
March 21st, 2007 at 02:48 AM
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The bed on the right have tomatoes, strawberries and zucchini. The plastic pipes shown are used to hold up a plastic sheet I used when there was a chance of a light freeze. These plastic pipes also serve to hold up a shading cloth which I will use when the weather turns too hot.


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Re: type of compost #97310
March 21st, 2007 at 02:48 AM
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ok quick question bare w/me i'm still new @ this ...
Remember, not to worry, we all start out somewhere's.. and that's how you learn, and we all learn..
By helping one another..
Someday, we hope that when you feel comfortable with what you know and have done and learned...
You'll be right here helpin' another new person
along with all of their questions.. thumbup

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Originally posted by Joni_P:
we live on a farm w/cattle and use straight cow manure out of the cattle yard,

But if i do veggies should i do anything differently w/it like add anything to it or anything ?
Cow manure, aged, is very good..
But do remember, it's pure nitrogen...
*Nitrogen = Green leaves/growth*

Having a compost pile, (set off to the side somewhere's) you can add your cow manure to, along with dried garden debris and clean up,
and kitchen scraps and or sawdust added...
*a ratio of 75% Brown and 25% Green*
and that stuff will be lovely...
Just layer the brown and green, let sit for a bit..
and then turn every so many days..
You can add grass clippings too...

But as for your veggies, and using the old manure..
Not a problem, just don't go over board..
*like the ole'sayin'.. twice as much isn't always better*
But it is good stuff..

For plants like leaf lettuce, manure is good..
*promotes green growth*
and Corn and pumpkins' lovvvvvvvvvve it..
*they are heavy nitrogen feeders*


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Re: type of compost #97311
March 21st, 2007 at 02:51 AM
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Joni, wish I could answer your question. I bought the compost at a landscaping place. I was told that it was "cured" I did not add anything to it.

I did however, noticed that using this compost, my fruit trees are flowering much more then last year.


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Re: type of compost #97312
March 21st, 2007 at 02:52 AM
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cool thanks Weezie laugh I appreciate everyone's helpfulness here !

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Re: type of compost #97313
March 21st, 2007 at 03:36 AM
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Originally posted by carino:
The bed on the right have tomatoes, strawberries and zucchini. The plastic pipes shown are used to hold up a plastic sheet I used when there was a chance of a light freeze. These plastic pipes also serve to hold up a shading cloth which I will use when the weather turns too hot.
You don't happen to have a full view picture of that bed with those pipes do you?? grinnnn

And what kind of pipes did you use?
Veryyyyyy curious??


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Re: type of compost #97314
March 21st, 2007 at 03:42 AM
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The pipes are use by electritical people to run wiring from one outlet to another. I do not have a picture but.....I will take some and provide them to you sometime this week.


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Re: type of compost #97315
March 21st, 2007 at 03:54 AM
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Re: type of compost #97316
March 21st, 2007 at 10:15 AM
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They look very healthy to me. My suggestion is do no more than what you are doing.


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