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#69365 Jun 18th, 2007 at 11:00 AM
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I came across this echinacea today...it's supposed to be a double decker echinacea, but as you can see it looks almost like a dahlia. I can't wait to see if the rest of the blooms look the same or if it's just some freak of nature on that bloom. It looks similar to another echinacea called Razzmatazz, but not exactly the same. If I save seeds from that one bloom, will I get a plant with those blooms?

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Alan - I just looked at echinacea purpurea Razzmatazz in my Thomson & Morgan catalogue and it's described as 'a most remarkable and unique discovery'. But its 'only' a double and I think you're one beats that for looks - if it isn't a one-off freak and does produce similar seedlings maybe you have stumbled across a unique new variety. And if so, does that mean that you get to name it? (e.g., 'Razmatazz Alankhart' has a neat ring to it, dont you think!)

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Alan, I have seen Razzmatazz before, and I think yours actually looks more like a zinnia!
It really is a beauty - hope the seeds grow like this one!


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plants 'n pots #69411 Jun 18th, 2007 at 11:55 AM
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Wow! That is very pretty!

#69413 Jun 18th, 2007 at 12:06 PM
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I thought it looked like a zinia too! If its a hybrid though, which I believe it is, the babies from its seeds will probably be different than momma plant there. Could be really nice babies anyway.


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Wrennie #69441 Jun 18th, 2007 at 01:34 PM
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tissue culture and make yourself some big bucks lol
that is a beautiful coneflower, I've never seen one like it before, rewally looks like a zinnia/dahlia


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That's nice!


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Some hybrids are sterile and some as mentioned before don't breed true. But I would definitely give it a shot just encase you have a viable subject there.

You can also propogate the plant by root division. This is your best bet for getting a viable clone for your plant. Good luck with it. Hope you have a viable mutation that you can name and patent.


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being hybrid its color may be different.I have a purpleish-pink coneflower and one of the seedheads I sowed was a paler pink color.so I moved it to another bed(It looks horrible.I moved it when we were in the 90s with no rainfall)but it should look great blooming next year and will have the BES to help make it stand out.I think its put out 3 blooms since being moved.I like yours though.I'd love to try out a seedhead for WS.From what I've read...............

It don't realiably produce double blooms the 1st year(I assume the alfalfa spike)
can take 2 year for the roots to establish.


Does it smell?have fragrance?
Eugen Schleipfer is the breeder of this plant.Its bred in Germany.His family has a nursery in Germany


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njoynit #70193 Jun 19th, 2007 at 09:35 AM
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It has no fragrance to speak of. If the other buds come out the same I will try to propogate it from root division and see what happens. If I don't get any more blooms like it I guess it was just a freak bloom.


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I'll cross my fingers for you.


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Wow that's beautiful! I hope everything works out!

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