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I would love to have a big greenhouse to have fresh vegetables all year. I can grow lettuce and I might try radishes this year but I've never been able to grow tomatoes. My sister says they don't taste the same anyway. Maybe not enough sunshine maybe?? They still have trouble with white flies and things in their greenhouse in the winter.



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That is a good dream to have Sheri, I always thought about having one someday but it would do little good here unless it had a heat source....too much work I think.


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I've either got to come up with a new spot for tomatoes or I'm not going to plant them anymore.



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How about a raised bed...2 feet high ??? Would that help ?


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I think they need a little shade. Right now their spot gets full sun all day and it’s too much.



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Ah, I see..can you find some shade cloth ??


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Have you ever tried to plant some in pots/buckets Sheri, that way they can be moved around if you need to?


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Originally Posted by Sunflowers
Have you ever tried to plant some in pots/buckets Sheri, that way they can be moved around if you need to?

If you do that..make sure the pot is at least a 20 gallon pot. I have done it with smaller and while the plants did well, I did not get much fruit. In my 20 gallon pots, the tomatoes would have grown well, if they did not have this fungus. Still getting some tomatoes though.......Gonna be quite the job to disinfect the pots this fall though, I must say.

But, Sunny is right..planting in pots would solve your problem.


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I have shade cloth but never could figure out how to keep it fastened to the poles in a way that the wind wouldn't tear it up. Ordered if from Amazon. . Last year or the year before I put a tent, like a softball tent, over them. But we live in a wind tunnel and even being anchored in the ground it was a constant battle keeping the tent in place. When I planted on the back 40 they were shaded by the barn. But the barn got hit by tornados 2 days in one week and we ended up taking it totally down. I just need to find a totally new spot.



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Gee Sheri, when it rains it pours at your house, huh ?
Good luck on finding a new spot.


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I'm going to watch the sun and build a raised bed. The beds my childrens class built a few years ago at church gets exactly the right amount of everything. They never get watered and the tomato plants produce and don't have any, and I mean any bugs. I figured the bugs would find them after the first year but this is the 3rd year and still no bugs.



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Sounds great ! What kind of raised beds did your children's class build , Sheri ?


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I spent the evening dealing with bugs in my garden as well. potato bugs, raspberry weevils, earwigs, etc... It has been a horrid year for the gardeners and a feast for the insects.


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Junie we got some treated wood and nailed them together. I think 4 x 6. We made 3 of them and filled them with bagged potting soil. I added more soil this year. Johnny went by and brought home 8 tomatoes yesterday and they're beautiful. No blemishes or bug bites. I'm happy about it but can't figure out why the bugs haven't found them and how they've stayed so pretty when we've had some scorching days. I haven't watered once. They're in a bricked in area beside the church where there are no other shrubs, trees, or flowers. Just grass. Wonder if having other plants around causes the bugs. I'd thought about planting squash there this year but I'm afraid to introduce anything new.

I've tried to attach a picture showing the space. I'm gonna watch my yard for the same sunlight.

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Looks really nice, Sheri. Thanks for sharing this. While I would think the brick would give off heat, perhaps that area is protecting from direct/ harsh sunlight? I have no idea about the bug situation. Glad that area is doing so well though.

I guess it could be that you have some type of plant that draws the bugs to your yard, and the church does not ? Just guessing here.....


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Sunny, I once saw a horror movie starring Vincent Price and someone put an earwig in his ear and it drove him crazy. That's all I know about earwigs. What type of damage do they cause?



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Wow Bestofour, tomatoes sure grow large where you live.They never past two feet high here...and that is with the largest variety one can get. Thanks for sharing the pic.

Earwigs eat everything, they infest the ground and even eat the roots of the plants. They just look disgusting so they creep me out with the fact that they are crawling on things. The bugs are awful this year...my take on it is that they love the heat that you all have. This is the hottest Summer on record here.


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I didn’t realize your plants stay short. Do you get lots of tomatoes? The plants around here get 6 to 8 feet tall. We cage them then stake up the cages because they’re so heavy.

1-1/2 inches of rain yesterday. I didn’t go in the yard.



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We get lots of tomatoes but only the cherry type ripen on the vine. My mother plants beefsteak/scotia/roma but they are still hard and green at the end of the season so she has to ripen them in the house...they just do not taste the same. I have given up and now only plant the smaller variety. You need a green house here to ripen peppers as well to their true colors.


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Johnny went by the church and the maintenance guy told him there were a lot of tomatoes ready and went and picked them for him and put them in a bag. I couldn't believe it when I opened the bag. They're greener than grass and hard as a baseball. That crazy man picked 8 beautiful tomatoes but they're too hard and green to even slice and fry up as fried green tomatoes (which we don't like anyway). Johnny says he didn't ask him to do this, he just did it. Some people have no sense. Maybe he's color blind.

Sunny, I like the cherry tomatoes. I leave a bowl on the counter and eat them all day long.



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I guess the maintenance man has no idea about tomatoes...jeepers. They'll ripen on a windowsill though.


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I'm not sure these will ripen Sunny. They are so very green and so very hard. Maybe I'll have fresh tomatoes this winter smile



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They should ripen, Sheri....mine that my SIL picked so I could have fried green tomatoes did..good thing we had at least one meal of them fried.I

I chopped and froze 16 ounces each of those tomatoes. Waste not, want not.


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They did ripen but not before become soft and one actually rotted.

I pulled up the cucumber vines today because they started looking yucky. It happened over night so I'm not sure if it's from the rain or something else. There were still a few blooms but I didn't know if they'd actually produce so I pulled them. Also pulled up a few tomato plants that looked spindly.



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Hi !

Yes, my tomato plants are about shot as well.
I will leave them alone for a bit yet to see if the few green tomatoes ripen.
Good news is I have 2 volunteer tomato plants in my one flower bed.

If i am lucky they will make before the cold weather hits.

Last night I planted some blackberry tips. When they root I will cut them from the mother plant. More blackberries for Carol thumbup


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I have already pulled the cukes, tomatoes, beans and peppers here due to frost. Only the potatoes, carrots and a few small watermelons left. I cover the watermelon plants with plastic because they are GG's and are not ready yet(probably never will be but I am trying).


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You are a good Grammy..but I have to ask...where did summer go ?


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Boy Sunny you do have a short season.



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Yup, at most we might get 75 days if we are lucky....this year it was 69 days without frost.


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Pulled up the rest of the tomatoes and a few squash plants. No squash vine borer though. I added fertilizer to the straw bales and plant to plant a few fall crops in them. Not yet though because if the seedlings come up they'll scorch for sure.



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Looks like my tomatoes are going to bear a bit more in the fall. That will be nice.

What will you plant this fall, Sheri ?


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Junie I went to the farmers market this morning and one of the farmers told me he has tomato plants that are about 2 feet tall right now and he thinks it will be warm enough for them to have ripe tomatoes before it's too cold. So I came home and put out more squash seeds smile We shall see.

I readied the bed for beets and radishes that I'll plant in about a week - still too hot. I'll plant lettuce then too. I'm going to plant carrots in the straw bales where the squash used to be. The carrots won't be ready until spring though.



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There is a guy who works at a hydroponic place a few towns south of us. He says they will have jet stars and celebrity tomatoes in a month or so. Right now they are getting cherry tomatoes.

Indeterminate tomatoes can grow up to 10 feet high..and will produce fruit until the plant is killed by frost...mine are about a foot higher than usual tomato plants. One is so tall it is leaning over onto and across my azalea bush.

Sounds as if you are going to be busy planting my friend. Take it easy.


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The church garden is doing great. Lots of tomatoes just about ready to pull. Maybe I should just plant there next year.



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Now there is a plan, Sheri.
Sounds good to me !


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It amazes me that you can plant all year round.


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Originally Posted by Sunflowers
It amazes me that you can plant all year round.
Yes, me too. Sheri is sure a lucky girl.


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This is a good area for growing stuff. There is something blooming all year long.



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The camellias have buds on them. They'll bloom all winter unless we have a really hard freeze. Guess that leaves you out Sunny. frown



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Please post photos later next winter, Sheri. I am sure it will brighten our day/ days.


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