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#37014 May 3rd, 2007 at 12:48 PM
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I had a pond post in the old forums, about how when the sewer contractor was here back in November, he very kindly dug out a hole for me to have a very nice sized pond. The hole has been just sitting there, filling up with snow and water over the past several months, and Don and I finally got outside today and plotted out the shape for him to fix it into:

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I know it's hard to see the yellow rope that Don used, but this is only the beginning. He has to rebuild some of the sides that caved in during the winter months, and also build plant shelves into 2 of the sides. Plus we are going to have a waterfall in the back, and raised gardens on either side of it, and gardens on the sides. And the front part is going to go more in towards the center a little bit. I'll also have garden on either side.

You can see the tiny bathtub pond that I've had for the past 2 summers - it will be pulled out, because we'll need that area for the walkway in the front of the new pond.

Soooooooooooo much to do - I'll update as we go along...


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wow lynne! it looks so huge, i realy loved what ya did with the tub pond, cant wait to see what ya do to your new one.


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Im eagerly waiting and watching to see what you will do. keep taking the photos Lynne.


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you have got to keep up this post, i am MORE than excited to see the progress!

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OK Wendy - here you go! lol blush

Don spent most of this afternoon digging around the outside border shape. The very outer edge will be rocks, and the inner edge will be plant shelves. The back end will have a waterfall and raised gardens on either side of it. You can see the first 3 rocks that he placed for the waterfall! lol thumbup Too much detail??? bop why It will be built up into the mound of dirt back there.

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Sorry the picture is crooked - I took it while standing on the deck stairs.

Oh... have I mentioned that this pond is taking on a life of its own???
What we thought was going to be a 3,000 gallon pond, is now closer to 8,000 gallons!!! Which is wonderful on the one hand, but [color:#CC33CC]EVER SO MUCH MORE EXPENSIVE WHERE PUMPS, FILTERS, ETC
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OMG! that is going to be huge! it's wonderful though! this may be a stupid question, do you buy a liner that big or have to piece on together? i wish i lived closer, that looks like a good place to dump my koi! still wish i could find a good home for him, he is wwwwwwwaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyy toooooo big for my pond now!


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NEVER a stupid question, Wendy!!!

The pond store near us has liners that are very wide - we will be getting one that is about 15x30 feet. I can't even think about the cost - as I said... this pond is taking on a life of its own! shock

How large is your koi, and how long have you had it?
I'm going to start out with the very small, cheaper ones - we have too many predators here to spend too much on the fish - have to see if they can survive! why


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As amazing as this is going to look, I really liked your little bathtub pond! I wish we had an old bathtub!! LOL

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Oh lynne, that's going to be too cool! I'm so excited for you! From one small pond owner to another(soon to not be another). lol

The cost will be bad, but think of all the years of enjoyment you'll get out of it! thumbup What will you use as an underlayment for the liner? We used old porch carpeting in our small one.

Mark is currently looking for a big piece of rubber to use for our new pond! So it stil might happen this year! shots

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Pink - you'd be surprised at how many bathtubs I saw by the sides of roads just after we put ours in the ground!!! It was about this time of year, 2 years ago - seems that many people were re-doing their bathrooms and had put them out for trash. It was soooo tempting not to take another one at the time! (of course not knowing then, that I would someday have a REAL pond! lol

loz - Don got a delivery of sand to put in the bottom under the liner. He also shook out all the dirt from the grass that he dug up around the sides, for an added buffer. He's being very careful about smoothing it all out before getting the liner.

I hope Mark finds some rubber soon, and that you get your larger pond this summer too, so we can compare notes! thumbup clap flwr


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thumbup And how deep is the middle again?

It's so cool. I can't wait to see it all filled in with water and plants around it! Will you have a seating area nearby? Maybe you said something about that and I missed it.

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Wow, now that's a pond. I'd like a small one but they seem rather pricey here.


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loz - the deepest part will be 3 1/2 feet. I had read on several pond forums that it should be that deep for the fish to overwinter under the ice we'll get here. BUT... when we were in the pond store last weekend, the guy said it only needs to be 2 feet! Oh, well... it's too late for that! rolz

I am definitely planning on planting around the 2 sides, and around the waterfall. I'm going to move the black wrought iron arbor bench to one side for seating. I finally figured out what I need to do with it - you see... the birds have been perching on the top and doing their "business" on the cushions on the bench, so last summer I didn't get to sit on it at all - it was too disgusting! I bought a vinyl tablecloth, and am going to sew a cover to put up on the arbor part - it will both protect the cushions, and shade the top of the bench! thumbup


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It will look so nice Lynne! Heck that deep? You could go swimming in it! lol Our small one now is about 18 inches to 20 inches deep---that's why I brought my fish in last winter because we didn't make it deep enough. Well I thought I got all the mosquito fish out last year, we drained it and everything...Well this spring, lo and behold there were some I must've missed and they made it thru the winter just fine. When we redo it, it will be at least 3 ft in the middle.....

Good idea with your arbor bench. The birds do like to "do their business" all over our pretty stuff huh?

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i've always heard 3 ft if you get snow. we don't, so 18 inches is good. but if i were digging one, i'd want 2-3 feet.

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my koi was bought by mistake at walmart 2 years ago. i was new at ponds and fish, i picked out a real pretty fantail goldfish and not knowing it, i let my husband pick "JAWS" out. it was about 2 inches then, and now he (or she) has to about 8 inches now. the pond is only 165 gal., and i have 3 other goldfish in there. it is a constant battle to keep the water clear. i found a pet store in town that would take it, but now i feel sorry for him. it is not his fault he is a monsterfish. he seems so happy.


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sorry, i was trying to quote and DID'NT! my last post was to answer lynne's question and my koi.

i am soooo excited about seeing your finished pond i feel like it is my own!


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Thanks Wendy - I feel like you are the cheering section! lol kissie

The latest accomplishment is that Don built the deeper shelf on the left side. This will hold the hardy water lilies that need to be between 18-24 inches deep - the shelf is about 18 deep. He's now working on the shallower, right side shelf, as I type!

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Lynne, don't leave us hanging---I'm dying for an update! kissie

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loz you are sooooooooo funny! lol
Thanks all! kissie

Don didn't get a chance to work on the pond much the past week, but made up for it this long weekend. He put in the pipes for the bottom drain, and continued to dig out the shelves, and a recessed edge for the lining rocks to go on. He was out there with his lazer level tonight, and saw that he still has much work to do before the liner goes in...

Today's progress...
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The pipe is all ready to hook up to the drain, once he gets the liner in, and puts the drain cover through it - that will be a little while...

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Yippee, an update!!!! lol Very cool that you are going to have that pipe in there like that.

Things are looking great!!!! It's so exciting when you fill it and the water is so nice and clear and you can see the fishes every move around the pond. I've been sitting by mine for hours just watching them.

Looking forward to more updates...and Lynne, don't leave me hanging again. lol neener

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Funny loz! lol thumbup

I might be begging you for a few of those mosquito fish when it's all said and done - they are REEEEEEEEEEEAlly bothering me, and Amy came home from a BBQ down the street tonight, covered in bites!


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Sure thing, once they pop out babies no problem. They can have 100 babies at a time....live babies.

They haven't mated yet, but one looks very pregnant so it could be soon. I bought mine on ebay originally--9 of them and only 2 didn't make it on the trip from Oregon to Maryland....so I think they'd ship relatively well.

I'm still super excited about your pond!!!! I'm a ponder now.....I just love them. Everyones, and anyones!

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Wow! Lots of work. I cant wait to see it all done! I guess youcant wait either! lol


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wow, looks great Lynne, can't wait to see the end result. Your hubby is sure doing a nice job on your pond!


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Thanks again, all!

SOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO...
Most everyone here knows we live in [color:#333333]ROCK
land county, riiiiiiiiight???
And it wasn't named that for no reason, riiiiiiight?

So, what does my husband go and do the other day???
He went to a stoneware place and ordered a pallet of ROCKS for $200!!!
touched uhuhh rolz

Thank goodness he had some birthday money saved up, or he'd be wearing those rocks on his head right about now!!!devil He wanted flat rocks to line the inset edge of the pond, and he said he'll put the more "shapely" ones on top of those. I'm hoping this is going to come out they way I invisioned it!
(it wasn't with flat rocks!!!) idea
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Ohh Lynne this is going to be one fantastic pond!! It sounds like Don is just as enthusiastic as you are , and he is doing a terrific job at putting it together,, I'm sure it will be as your designed it.. He just has his way of getting to the results you invision notme :wink:


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Lynne, don't worry it's going to look wonderful when it's all done! I can't WAIT to see it!!!! thumbup

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i have a question though, i meant to ask a while ago. what is the point of that drain pipe?

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I see where a lot of big clay fishing ponds/farm ponds have drain pipes.....

I guess that one there is in case Lynne wants to totally drain out the pond for some reason....How will that be hooked up to a drain so the liner doesn't leak?

Are you getting Koi fish? I did read that drains are important in a pond if you keep Koi.

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i was thinking all those things too loz...

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i'm wondering the same thing but it is looking fabulous!


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Ok - I didn't want to answer your questions until I got the facts right, from Don. He said that the drain takes the water from the bottom of the pond, through the pipes and then through the pump. Then through the bio-filter, and out through the waterfall to return back into the pond. "In addition we are going to have a skimmer filter".

PHEW!!! lol thumbup

He also said about the drain itself...
"They make a special gasket and fitting that creates a water-tight seal through the liner" so it won't leak.

Thanks for all the nice comments and questions. kissie
This certainly is a learning experience for us all, isn't it? idea


ooops - almost forgot - yes, loz - I am DEFINITELY hoping to get some koi fish, but will get the very small, young CHEAP ones, in case a critter decides to make a meal of them!!! I've read that they grow pretty fast also, so it will be fun to watch that too.


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ok, that makes more sense. it isn't really a drain at all, but just the line to the pump.

i like that set up, but i will have mine about 6 inches above the bottom, 'cause i've accidentally drained my pond one too many times, and i don't want dead, dried out fishes! :loL:

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Well... technically... it IS a drain, looks like a drain (walks like a drain? lol touched)

Just had to add that - getting a bit slap-happy these days!


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Originally Posted by plants 'n pots
Well... technically... it IS a drain, looks like a drain (walks like a drain? lol touched)

Just had to add that - getting a bit slap-happy these days!


walks like a duck, talks like a duck, must be a duck? why lol

i suppose it is a drain, but in terms that a drain carries the water away from the pond for discard, and this carries it for recirculation... but, like i said, i'd be afraid i goofed and dried out my fish nervous

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i get it, this acts like tubing i have running from pump, out and up to my small stream. i can't wait to see this up and running.


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Do you ever see any heron down there Lynne? They love to eat out of peoples buffets ponds. If you get a heron statue they tend to stay away. they think the territory is already 'taken'.


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Wrennie - I haven't seen any heron around here - YET!!! uhuhh

But my friend who lives up in Chester? All her koi were eaten/killed by herons last summer - it was so sad - she was beside herself! boohoo Her yard is fenced in, so it couldn't have been any other critter, and she has seen a heron there before... tears

I'm more concerned about the 'coons - I've read that they can really make a mess out of ponds in their attempts to get to the fish - knocking over the plants and caving in sides - we haven't tried to trap them yet - it has to be overnight when Don isn't working the next day, so he can transport them up to the preserve. That's HIS job... thumbup


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