Previous Thread
Next Thread
Print Thread
Rate Thread
#358620 Jul 9th, 2012 at 07:24 AM
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4
Member
OP Offline
Member
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4
I have a few questions if you dont mind. My gardening experience is practically nil, but i really want to start and to learn as much as I can.

Just FYI, I am in Georgia near Atlanta...just so you know the weather, etc here. What can I plant right now that will produce before winter comes? My MIL says tomatoes if I put plants down. What else can I plant? some things that I love to eat are cabbage, peppers (sweet and spicy), collards, Squash, okra, corn, and especially tomatoes. Im wanting to start a garden asap and it will be small (maybe 20'x20') so I can handle it for a first one.

Another problem I am having with my yard that will relate to the garden. My In Laws used to live in this house and we are buying from them. They always had a garden that covered the whole back yard. Fil says they had all of what I mentioned above and more. The problem is, there hasn't been a garden back there in a few years and there is an over run of what he calls Mole Beans. He says that they need to pulled up by the roots, but there are a TON of them back there. Anyone ever heard of this and how to get rid of it?

Thanks in advance for replies...


Thanks!
----
Allen
GO TIGERS!
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 37,027
Likes: 9
California Queen
30k Posts
Offline
California Queen
30k Posts
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 37,027
Likes: 9
Welcome, GaTiger.
you could try all of the above with the exception of the cabbage and collard. Those are cool weather crops and will grow best in the fall for you. Plant seeds of those indoors late summer for planting out as soon as the summer heat has dissipated some. You can add some cool season squash to that fall crop. And lettuces.
It may be best to begin with plants this late into the season for any summer crops. Those are the tomatoes, corn, peppers, etc. Corn usually grows best with a fairly large stand for cross pollination though.
I do not know a thing about mole beans. But I would listen to your FIL on this as he is your local expert.
Good luck!


~Tina
[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]

Drama Free Zone.
What every gardener loves the most, Begins and ends in rich compost. (Tina)
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 397
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 397
I seem to have read an article once that castor beans are sometimes called mole beans because they are/were used to get rid of moles. Trouble is the beans are poisonious and if you have kids or pets I would think you would want to rid yourselves of the plants. But sorry, as to how best to do that I wouldn't know. Maybe put off the idea of having a garden this year and spray them with a plant killer? Something that would kill the plants, but not harm the soil. Then this fall mix in some good compost and you would be ready for a fall planting?? I am not sure of this, just another newbies' thoughts.


Bobbie

[Linked Image]
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 37,027
Likes: 9
California Queen
30k Posts
Offline
California Queen
30k Posts
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 37,027
Likes: 9
Yep, I just looked it up. Castor/Mole beans are very nasty plants and certainly a weed here. I would get rid of them any way I could. Here they will often spring up beside railroad tracks and they do spray them with Roundup. Once Roundup is in the ground it turns into an innocuous substance in a very short period of time.


~Tina
[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]

Drama Free Zone.
What every gardener loves the most, Begins and ends in rich compost. (Tina)
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4
Member
OP Offline
Member
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4
this garden is a large one and these plants have over run it. Its gonna take a LOT of roundup to get rid of them. The garden is about 100 feet long and 50 feet wide. It covers the whole backyard. It is like kudzu back there! In fact, Im thinking I saw some actual kudzu back there as well mixed in. This is going to be a major project, me thinks!


Thanks!
----
Allen
GO TIGERS!
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 37,027
Likes: 9
California Queen
30k Posts
Offline
California Queen
30k Posts
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 37,027
Likes: 9
But if you want a yard to use for anything, it needs to be done. I am sorry you have such a daunting task. I will say I use a Walmart product called Eliminator which has the same ingredients as Roundup but is a little less expensive.


~Tina
[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]

Drama Free Zone.
What every gardener loves the most, Begins and ends in rich compost. (Tina)
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 397
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 397
You might talk to your county extension office and/or weed and pest control agencies, not sure what they have in GA. In WY we have a weed and pest control agency and if I have certain weeds (what they call canada thistle for one) they will give me a product I can use if I bring in my own container. It might be a place to start. Espically if you have kudzu....


Bobbie

[Linked Image]
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 37,027
Likes: 9
California Queen
30k Posts
Offline
California Queen
30k Posts
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 37,027
Likes: 9
Cool. We only have a pest thing. For many years it was illegal to grow Castor bean plants anywhere in California. I don't know about that any more, but i am seeing more of them.


~Tina
[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]

Drama Free Zone.
What every gardener loves the most, Begins and ends in rich compost. (Tina)
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4
Member
OP Offline
Member
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4
Talked to the extension office and they advised me on what to do with them. In fact, I have cut and gotten rid of one corner of this whole thing and planted/transplanted some tomatoes and peppers and basil there. Gonna see how that works out. Ive done what the extension office said to do and hopefully, I will be rid of them.


Thanks!
----
Allen
GO TIGERS!
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 397
Member
Offline
Member
Joined: Sep 2011
Posts: 397
YEAH, sometimes those experts know what to do. I hope it all works for you. You've been working hard to get as much done as you have. WTG


Bobbie

[Linked Image]
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 37,027
Likes: 9
California Queen
30k Posts
Offline
California Queen
30k Posts
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 37,027
Likes: 9
Very good. May I ask what they told you to do?


~Tina
[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]

Drama Free Zone.
What every gardener loves the most, Begins and ends in rich compost. (Tina)
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4
Member
OP Offline
Member
Joined: Jul 2012
Posts: 4
Originally Posted by Tina
Very good. May I ask what they told you to do?


yep...

1. wear long pants, shirt, and gloves.
2. Pull the plants up by the root
3. Dont burn them and dont touch the seeds.

she said once I got them up by the roots, then I could till the land and plant there. she also gave me the option of using roundup on them or I could cut them down to the ground level and put black plastic down over the entire yard to solarize them which would kill them dead.

Once I got out there and started looking, the field wasn't as overrun as I thought. It was mostly morning glory and about 20% Castor Bean. The bens were tall and strong and weren't easy to pull up, but I have a 17 year old nephew, 6-6 305 pounds with a very strong back. LOL.

We cut the field after pulling up the bad things and then tilled up about a 20' x 15' plot to plant 9 tomato plants (one Brandywine and 8 celebrity) as well as three basil and one horn pepper plant.

Hopefully, those will grow now.


Thanks!
----
Allen
GO TIGERS!
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 37,027
Likes: 9
California Queen
30k Posts
Offline
California Queen
30k Posts
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 37,027
Likes: 9
Very good. I use any labor I can find, also. It helps a lot.


~Tina
[Linked Image]
[Linked Image]

Drama Free Zone.
What every gardener loves the most, Begins and ends in rich compost. (Tina)
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 18,524
Likes: 23
Patriot
10k Posts
Offline
Patriot
10k Posts
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 18,524
Likes: 23
Georgia, how did things turn out after you removed the mole beans?





Link Copied to Clipboard
Seasonal Ticker
Gardening Links
Gardening in July
Gardening in August
Gardening in September


Shop at Amazon and Support AGF
Are you shopping online? Click this link first and A Gardeners Forum will receive a commission for your referral at Amazon.com (shopping through this link to Amazon will not have any impact on your prices at Amazon).
Like Us on Facebook
Forum Statistics
Forums65
Topics14,280
Posts239,009
Average Daily Posts5
Members15,990
Most Online10,356
Nov 2nd, 2019
Top Posters(30 Days)
chazbo 2
Shani 2
Random Gallery Image
Powered by UBB.threads™ PHP Forum Software 7.7.5