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Pic of blackberries:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/frankyguitarwatson/4720928787/

Just curious if the species is any of the following, and if so, which species is it, I will try to get a pic of the flowers at the URL if I can.

Here are some excerpts from a wiki.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blackberry
In various parts of the United States, wild blackberries are sometimes called "Black-caps", a term

more commonly used for black raspberries, Rubus occidentalis.

A typical blackberry is in the Rubus genus of the Rosaceae family.

Invasive species of blackberry:
"Particularly Rubus armeniacus (syn. R. procerus, 'Himalaya') and Rubus laciniatus ('Evergreen') are

naturalised and considered an invasive species and a serious weed.[1]

I will sample one of the ripe ones now and let everyone know how they taste.

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I just went out and picked a black one - it ran a thin raspberry-colored juice all over my hand but when I ate it - it was quite delicious, every bit as good as the (poisonous) cotoneaster I mentioned last year. So I guess I'll have to keep those berries a secret, of course, let the local animals enjoy most of them. They can really use the vitamin C this time of year.

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It looks like Rubus leucodermis (aka: Blackcap or Wild Black Raspberry) to me. A clear photo of the foliage might help confirm that...

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Here, I've added 3 photos of the foliage on flickr. Hope this helps. Thank you.

http://www.flickr.com/photos/frankyguitarwatson/sets/72157624200650353/

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I am 96% sure that it is Rubus leucodermis Did you taste the berries yet? They're yummy in moderation

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I will need to be convinced that they are not just an Eastern commercial black raspberry Rubus Occidentalis (which is similar to the Western black raspberry species Rubus Leucodermis). It wouldn't surprise me if a bird or squirrel ate some jelly and caused the seeds to sprout last year. Yes, I ate a berry earlier today - it is very tasty. It wouldn't surprise me if the berries have some ill effects if I ate too many but I don't mind taking some bad with the good. But I'll bet in the longrun they cure a lot of ills with all of the antioxidants and vitamins and fiber and everything else. They seem like a miracle-cure type of food - used by pregnant women even.

I'll have to study this one a lot further as there are subspecies involved and possibly some hybridization (they remind me of oak trees) in the case that it IS in fact Rubus Leucodermis. I wonder if Leucodermis is found on the East Coast and if so, is it extensively found?

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