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#9749 - 03/31/07 09:46 AM Hardy Waterlily
loz loz Big Trouble Garden Helper Registered: 05/18/03 Posts: 40459 Loc: Beautiful Western Maryland...z...	Check out what my mom bought me today at Walmart, how cool is this? For about $6 you get this kit--to grow a hardy lily. She got it as a little early Easter present for me! Can't wait to get it going out in the pond, I sure hope it grows as pretty as the picture on the front! _________________________ for Cindy to get better!!!!!
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#9756 - 03/31/07 10:21 AM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: loz]
afgreyparrot afgreyparrot Officia Garden Helper Registered: 03/01/04 Posts: 60529 Loc: Cedar Hill	Cool..... I've never seen pond plants at our Wal-Mart. _________________________ I still run with scissors!
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#9757 - 03/31/07 10:49 AM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: afgreyparrot]
loz loz Big Trouble Garden Helper Registered: 05/18/03 Posts: 40459 Loc: Beautiful Western Maryland...z...	They're just in a little plastic case, next time you go you should ask them! _________________________ for Cindy to get better!!!!!
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#9837 - 03/31/07 01:50 PM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: loz]
njoynit njoynit Dream Gardener Registered: 07/24/03 Posts: 2840 Loc: SE TX`in the yard somewhere mo...	I've seen them at ours.most are gone.I wanted red so not got yet...but looking still _________________________ I will age ungracefully until I become an old woman in a small garden..doing whatever the Hell I want! http://community.webshots.com/user/njoynit03 http://community.webshots.com/user/njoynit http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v738/njoynit/
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#9897 - 03/31/07 03:02 PM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: njoynit]
plants 'n pots plants 'n pots Purl One Garden Helper Registered: 11/12/03 Posts: 22685 Loc: Rockland County, NY	Ooooooooooooooh loz - I'm sooooooooo glad you posted this, this morning before I went out to WalMart!!! I had a bunch of things to return, and then went straight to the plant department, where I found a small display of these hardy lilies with most still there, so I had my pick of the litter! Of course I had to get almost 1 of each color!!! That price is excellent compared to other places I've been looking! I got 2 of the ones on the outside in the picture, because I really liked the color. I also made sure to open each top and check that the plants were healthy - I only bought ones that I could see were starting to grow already - I'm setting them up on a plant stand in this room in front of a south facing window, and am going to water them to give them a headstart, since I can't put them out until May at the earliest. It says on the container that they are hardy down to -30 as long as the water does not freeze at the plant line! I'm hoping that this is actually true - one can never tell with plants that are a bargain, you know? uh oh... I've been researching these plants and am now wondering it I got too many??? Edited by plants 'n pots (03/31/07 04:27 PM) _________________________ ...............
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#10131 - 03/31/07 06:20 PM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: plants 'n pots]
loz loz Big Trouble Garden Helper Registered: 05/18/03 Posts: 40459 Loc: Beautiful Western Maryland...z...	Oooo, Lynne.....that's so cool you got all of those! Quote: It says on the container that they are hardy down to -30 as long as the water does not freeze at the plant line! I was trying to figure that out, because if it's -30 then wouldn't the water be frozen at the plant line anyway?? What's the best way to care for them in the winter do you think? And they are a great price I think! Way to go on getting all of those! Edited by loz (03/31/07 06:21 PM) _________________________ for Cindy to get better!!!!!
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#10183 - 03/31/07 07:02 PM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: loz]
plants 'n pots plants 'n pots Purl One Garden Helper Registered: 11/12/03 Posts: 22685 Loc: Rockland County, NY	loz - help!!!!!!! The containers say you can plant them in the pond anywhere from 24 inches to 60 inches, but when I found 3 of the 4 different varieties online, they all said to plant only at 24 inches. Also... the container says to "take inner mesh bag containing water lily out of packaging, and place bag into pond." Well... when I removed the mesh bag from the plastic container, to get the plastic bag off of it, the tubers were not INSIDE the mesh, but mearly place in the middle of them!!! So, how are they supposed to stay INSIDE the mesh when they are submerged into the pond??? I think I'm going to have to look for some of those pots that are used for pond plants - I have no idea where to find them, or how expensive they are? But I do know that the very expensive yet very very nice ponding store near me has one of the ones I got today in their catalogue for...$36!!!!!!! I'm sure it must be an older, larger plant, but still! They say in the catalogue to plant them in top soil (?), and place them with 6-24 inches of water over the top of the pot - hmmmmmmm... oh - I think when they say plant line, they mean the bulb or tuber in the pot - not where the leaves are floating on the surface - those, of course will die back. _________________________ ...............
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#10276 - 03/31/07 08:03 PM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: plants 'n pots]
loz loz Big Trouble Garden Helper Registered: 05/18/03 Posts: 40459 Loc: Beautiful Western Maryland...z...	Lynne, what are the names of your water lilies? Mine is attraction and on brecks it says you can plant in 4-36 inches. Is your new pond going to have shelving around the sides that you could set the bottom part down on to? I haven't opened mine yet to look at it....I guess we will be figuring this out together huh? lol _________________________ for Cindy to get better!!!!!
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#10321 - 03/31/07 08:44 PM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: loz]
plants 'n pots plants 'n pots Purl One Garden Helper Registered: 11/12/03 Posts: 22685 Loc: Rockland County, NY	It'll be fun doing this together, loz! The ones I got are: 2 Fabiola - pink 1 Colorado - salmon - wish I had gotten 2 of that one - the pictures online are gorgeous!!! 1 sulphurea - yellow 1 James Brydon - dark pink The pond will definitely have shelves - probably only on 2 sides though - the front is not strong enough for them, and the back will have the waterfall. Are you going to dig out a bigger pond this summer? _________________________ ...............
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#10488 - 04/01/07 07:36 AM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: plants 'n pots]
loz loz Big Trouble Garden Helper Registered: 05/18/03 Posts: 40459 Loc: Beautiful Western Maryland...z...	Well I was hoping to, it all comes down to money though...things have been super tight! If we can't do it this year I guess I'll have to be patient and think of next year. You got such a nice selection! _________________________ for Cindy to get better!!!!!
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#10574 - 04/01/07 10:27 AM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: loz]
plants 'n pots plants 'n pots Purl One Garden Helper Registered: 11/12/03 Posts: 22685 Loc: Rockland County, NY	OK - I told loz in a PM, NOT to uncover her water lily! Apparently they do not like to be exposed to the air, and all of mine started to dry out BIG time overnight last night. I ran them back to WalMart this morning , and got 3 new ones - I'm disappointed that there wasn't another one of the one I liked the best after seeing pictures online, but at least I was able to get 3 new ones. I also bought a deep, large plastic container tub to put them into. I had also read that the plants should not get below 75 degrees while actively growing, or it could compromise the blooms for that season. I do not have an area in this house that gets that warm - ever! - so I'm putting it into Brian's bedroom and hoping for the best. I also had Don cut a piece of old screening to tape over the top, so our ever-so-inquisitive and thirsty cats do not bother the plants! I'll assemble it all in a little while and post a picture afterwards. Lesson learned - do not allow your water lilys to be exposed to the air and dry out!!! _________________________ ...............
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#10773 - 04/01/07 02:54 PM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: plants 'n pots]
loz loz Big Trouble Garden Helper Registered: 05/18/03 Posts: 40459 Loc: Beautiful Western Maryland...z...	This seems like quite an adventure.... I sure hope they all grow well! Fingers crossed! _________________________ for Cindy to get better!!!!!
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#10779 - 04/01/07 03:14 PM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: loz]
plants 'n pots plants 'n pots Purl One Garden Helper Registered: 11/12/03 Posts: 22685 Loc: Rockland County, NY	Thanks loz - I hope yours grows well too! I wish I could put mine outside earlier like you can... Here are the plants in the tub filled with water: And with the screening taped down on the sides over the tub: Now we wait and see... _________________________ ...............
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#10862 - 04/01/07 05:07 PM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: plants 'n pots]
loz loz Big Trouble Garden Helper Registered: 05/18/03 Posts: 40459 Loc: Beautiful Western Maryland...z...	That looks really good Lynne, I'm going to do that to mine too tomorrow. And our really nice weather is turning yucky---high of 28 one day this week and dare I say it? SNOW flurries! _________________________ for Cindy to get better!!!!!
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#11127 - 04/01/07 07:43 PM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: loz]
faerywatcher faerywatcher Twinkle Dream Gardener Registered: 09/20/06 Posts: 3087 Loc: jackson county,tn.	hey ya'll, i bought the yellow one the other day....i plunked mine right in the bottom of the pond and it already is sending up one shoot. that was just 3 days ago. i kind of corked screwed mine down in the middle of the mesh and it has not floated out of it yet. once it gets going, the roots should hold it in. the one in my other pond is about 2 years old. no special treatment and not sure if i even do it right......again, plunked it to the bottom, it does fine, then in fall i whack it down to the basket. they don't seem to be that picky. good luck with yours! _________________________ Wendy's photos Cindy, fight as hard as you can for yourself and all who love you!
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#11130 - 04/01/07 07:47 PM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: faerywatcher]
faerywatcher faerywatcher Twinkle Dream Gardener Registered: 09/20/06 Posts: 3087 Loc: jackson county,tn.	oh, just a little note, if you keep them in anything other than a plant pot with NO holes (to contain the roots), the roots will spread out EVERYWHERE in the bottom of the pond, twisting their way under gravel and all! this is my mom's hard lesson learned. trying to clean the sludge build-up of the bottom last year, she liked to have never got the roots untangled from the gravel! _________________________ Wendy's photos Cindy, fight as hard as you can for yourself and all who love you!
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#11136 - 04/01/07 07:53 PM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: faerywatcher]
plants 'n pots plants 'n pots Purl One Garden Helper Registered: 11/12/03 Posts: 22685 Loc: Rockland County, NY	hmmmm - interesting Wendy! So, the pot you put it in has no holes? How large a pot are we talking and what material - plastic? Did you keep it in the small pot it came it? I can't imagine it growing very well being cramped in that small pot? oh... how deep is your pond? Mine is going to be rather large, and I don't think I'll be able to see the pot once I sink it into the pond. _________________________ ...............
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#11174 - 04/01/07 08:44 PM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: plants 'n pots]
faerywatcher faerywatcher Twinkle Dream Gardener Registered: 09/20/06 Posts: 3087 Loc: jackson county,tn.	both my ponds are 2 ft, deep. the first one with the 2 year old lily came in a plant basket.....small, square, with small holes in it. i still have it it there, but when i cut it back last fall, i picked the whole thing up out of the water to displace some of the roots. i did not want it to get like mom's was. mom was going to put her's in some type of pot to keep it some what root bound. she also has small ponds. i guess it really doesn't matter, the only thing is if you ever want to do anything to the plant where you have to pick the whole thing up, if the roots are left to "go where they may", it really mucks up the water and keeps debris in it. if your pond is going to be on the bigger side, it shouldnt matter. in mine, the river pebbles i have in the bottom of the pond was getting tangled in the roots. _________________________ Wendy's photos Cindy, fight as hard as you can for yourself and all who love you!
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#11182 - 04/01/07 09:19 PM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: plants 'n pots]
Gardencrazy Gardencrazy Dream Gardener Registered: 04/07/03 Posts: 2363 Loc: Virginia USA	Hey guys! Great deal on the lilies. You don't have to worry about how deep they are planted half as much as how far they spread. medium to large spreading (4+ feet spread but can be upwards to 12 feet) Attraction Colorado James Brydon small to medium spreading (1 to 3+ feet spread) Fabiola Sulfurea (unless it is Sulfurea gigantica) It is safe to say that as long as your ponds don't freeze solid the lilies will be fine. If you want the lilies to thrive, plant them in dirt and a bigger pot. Lilies don't need deep pots they need wide pots. The tubers grow on the surface of the soil not under it. Use pots with no holes. I use (plastic) cat litter pans or oil drip pans. Don't use dirt that has peat moss in it, it makes a mess when it floats. They need fertilizer too. If you can find pond tabs they are easy to use. This year I was going to try osmocote for mine. Loz- I hope everything works out for you to get the bigger pond. _________________________ my webshots ~ my photobucket
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#11511 - 04/02/07 08:12 AM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: Gardencrazy]
plants 'n pots plants 'n pots Purl One Garden Helper Registered: 11/12/03 Posts: 22685 Loc: Rockland County, NY	Thanks for the great info, Gardencrazy - Donna? Just a quickie update on the plants - they look really good in the water - even look as though they've perked up and might be starting to grow already. I'll post another picture as soon as I see some growth. _________________________ ...............
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#11529 - 04/02/07 08:19 AM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: plants 'n pots]
loz loz Big Trouble Garden Helper Registered: 05/18/03 Posts: 40459 Loc: Beautiful Western Maryland...z...	Quote: I use (plastic) cat litter pans or oil drip pans. Don't use dirt that has peat moss in it, it makes a mess when it floats. They need fertilizer too. If you can find pond tabs they are easy to use. This year I was going to try osmocote for mine. Great tips Donna, I will have to get a litter pan today while I'm out! Looking forward to pics Lynne! _________________________ for Cindy to get better!!!!!
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#11719 - 04/02/07 10:07 AM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: loz]
Gardencrazy Gardencrazy Dream Gardener Registered: 04/07/03 Posts: 2363 Loc: Virginia USA	Originally Posted By: plants 'n pots Thanks for the great info, Gardencrazy - Donna? Yep I am Donna Quote: Great tips Donna, I will have to get a litter pan today while I'm out! Loz- I get the small pans not the real big ones. _________________________ my webshots ~ my photobucket
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#11774 - 04/02/07 10:34 AM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: Gardencrazy]
loz loz Big Trouble Garden Helper Registered: 05/18/03 Posts: 40459 Loc: Beautiful Western Maryland...z...	Donna you are like a pond expert, you really hooked me up last year with the plants....I think it was Anacharis you sent me last year...well I tried to put it in my fishtank to keep some for this year and my stupid goldfish ate the whole thing....all of it! Small pan....right! Gonna get one! _________________________ for Cindy to get better!!!!!
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#14319 - 04/04/07 11:05 AM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: loz]
Gardencrazy Gardencrazy Dream Gardener Registered: 04/07/03 Posts: 2363 Loc: Virginia USA	Originally Posted By: loz Donna you are like a pond expert, you really hooked me up last year with the plants....I think it was Anacharis you sent me last year...well I tried to put it in my fishtank to keep some for this year and my stupid goldfish ate the whole thing....all of it! :nutz: I sure wish I was an expert Loz. I just like watergardening a lot. Are you needing some more anacharis? It will be around May before it starts to reproduce well. I can send ya some then if ya like. Donna _________________________ my webshots ~ my photobucket
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#14565 - 04/04/07 05:23 PM Re: Hardy Waterlily [Re: Gardencrazy]
loz loz Big Trouble Garden Helper Registered: 05/18/03 Posts: 40459 Loc: Beautiful Western Maryland...z...	Ooooo yes please! The baby mosquito really loved that because they could hide in it and not get eaten! Heck, you know a lot more about ponds than I do, that makes you an expert to me! _________________________ for Cindy to get better!!!!!
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