#295513 - 09/16/09 07:32 PM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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Tina
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Have you thought of netting your pond for a while? For the bird?
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#295515 - 09/16/09 07:41 PM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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We've talked about netting, but really... herons do not migrate from here at any time of the year, so it would have to be a permanent situation. At that point, I feel like "what is the point" of having fish? Nets are unattractive and bothersome to me. I wouldn't be able to have any of the plants on the perimeters the way I do now, and the racoons have been known to go under nets when they are determined.
A friend of mine who lives 40 minutes north of us has a very thick (ugly in my opinion) net on her pond because herons got all of her expensive koi last summer. That is one reason I never put a lot of money into the fish - only bought baby koi that were inexpensive, and now the comets. But they were doing so very well and more than doubled in size since I got them, so this is heartbreaking to me.
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#295521 - 09/16/09 08:27 PM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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Tina
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I am sorry, Lynne.
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#295555 - 09/17/09 03:00 PM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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Bestofour
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It's so aggravating! Bugs eat what we plant in the gardens and birds eat the fish out of the pond. We're in a constant battle.
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#295586 - 09/17/09 06:30 PM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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Fish still scared today, huddling under water lily leaves! 
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#295596 - 09/18/09 07:09 AM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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JunieGirl
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Lynne: While since they are all huddled together, I can tell the fishies are frightened, at least they are alive and well.--and I think I counted 9 ?
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#295598 - 09/18/09 07:20 AM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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Good eye, Carol! 
As of yesterday afternoon, all 9 are still there thankfully! 
I can't tell you how many times I jump up to go look out the windows and make noise on them just in case...! 
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#295601 - 09/18/09 08:37 AM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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JunieGirl
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Oh my, Just something else for momma Lynne to take care of huh???
I must say your fishies do look big and healthy. 
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#295666 - 09/19/09 03:53 PM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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Thanks Carol! 
NO WONDER I was so very cold outside in a tank top and shorts in the rubber waders IN THE POND!!! It's only 58 degrees outside right now!!! BRRRRR! That water was freeeeeeeeeezing! 
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#295670 - 09/19/09 04:57 PM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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Tina
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I bet it was. At 58 degrees, I'm weaing a sweatshirt.
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#295697 - 09/20/09 06:00 AM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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My grandaughter, Darbi, just got back from an outdoor enrichment experience and she informed me yesterday that beavers love to eat lilly pads. Better watch out for beavers Lynne.
How fast is a heron? Does the heron actually get in the pond and go after the fish?
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#295708 - 09/20/09 08:16 AM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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Oh Sheri you made me chuckle! 
Thanks for starting my morning off on the right foot! There aren't any beavers around here - not that I know of anyway!  
(Ya never know in my neck of the woods! )
Herons can swoop down very quickly and snatch a fish right out of the water, OR they perch on the side of the pond hidden (mine was hiding behind the elephant ears which is why I didn't even see it!) and grab a fish as it swims by. 
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#295712 - 09/20/09 08:24 AM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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Tina
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Sneaky birds. I thought they were waders too?
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#295713 - 09/20/09 08:27 AM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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The pond is too deep for them to wade in - a good thing!
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#296522 - 10/01/09 11:51 AM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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OMG!!!
I just went out to get the mail. My next door neighbor got his too, and called me over to compliment me on the landscaping of the pond - he said he and his wife enjoy looking at it from their deck - nice!
BUT... while we were talking, I was telling him about how a heron got 2 of my fish. He said he's never seen one. WELL LET ME TELL YOU... as if it was on cue!!!  I turned around to look at the pond and right there, right then was the heron perched on the side of the pond where I had seen him last time! I was so very shocked to see him then - pointed him out to my neighbor and the heron flew off! My neighbor got to see the bird in all it's glory - I ran over to count fish!!! I couldn't see them all til I fed them - counted 8 of the 9 consistently so I figured he got one! But then, thankfully, as I was walking back to the house I saw the last one hiding terrified in one of the black PVC pipes that we put in the pond just for that exact reason! YEA! 
I am going to put some plant stakes on the side where I've now seen the heron twice because that is what I have handy. We really need to decide our next move soon though.
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#296528 - 10/01/09 02:12 PM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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Here is the pond yesterday - thought I'd post an early fall picture.
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#296531 - 10/01/09 03:14 PM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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JunieGirl
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Will the herons ever stop??---I am so glad you scared it away.
I hope he does not come back for a very long time, if at all.
Lynne as always your pond and the surrounding gardens are beautiful...I so look forward to seeing pictures of it.
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#296534 - 10/01/09 03:38 PM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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Bestofour
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I love seeing pictures of your pond. The colors are magnificant.
You're going to have to put stuff out all around it I guess to deter that bird. Don't leave out your grill. That bird might have heard about the guy and the goldfish and decide to give it a try.
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#296547 - 10/01/09 07:01 PM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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Jiffymouse
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lynne, your pond looks so nice. and i'm glad the last fish got away.
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#297908 - 10/15/09 04:51 AM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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#297962 - 10/15/09 01:32 PM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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Well I put lots of tomato stakes at the sides of the pond where I had seen the heron before, but he was BACK this morning on the front edge! First thing I saw when I looked out the window!  I chased him off, and then saw that we had indeed had frost last night and my Charles Grimaldi brug was limp.
I don't know how many/if any fish are still left in the pond now - the other day I only saw 5, and haven't seen any since then. BUT... it is VERY cold out there now, and they do hibernate once the water temperature goes below 50 - it was in the mid 40's yesterday morning.
I spent 1 1/2 hours cutting back Charles, and digging him up. SHHHHHHHH - don't tell Don but I broke his shovel trying to dig that sucker out of the ground! The metal part broke right off the stick and it was a GOOD HEAVY shovel!!!  But I now have a few nice sized pieces in vases hopefully to root, and the big DADDY plant in a pot in the garage waiting for Don to bring it into the basement for winter - yea!
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#297969 - 10/15/09 04:12 PM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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Bestofour
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You'd think that bird would take a hint or at least be afraid. Maybe he'll move on when it gets colder. Since there's one does that mean theres another somewhere close by?
Good thinking on the brug.
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#297972 - 10/15/09 06:29 PM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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JunieGirl
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I spent 1 1/2 hours cutting back Charles, and digging him up. SHHHHHHHH - don't tell Don but I broke his shovel trying to dig that sucker out of the ground! The metal part broke right off the stick and it was a GOOD HEAVY shovel!!! But I now have a few nice sized pieces in vases hopefully to root, and the big DADDY plant in a pot in the garage waiting for Don to bring it into the basement for winter - yea!
Lynne: If you take Don's shovel to a hardware store they should be able to sell you a new handle and hopefuly they can replace it for you too.
Good luck * Carol is whispering so Don does not hear*
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#297982 - 10/15/09 08:42 PM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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Carol - Don said the same thing but... it was NOT the handle that broke off - the metal part snapped off from the metal part that holds the handle on. It is toast!
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#297984 - 10/16/09 04:20 AM
Re: Lynne's Pond experience continues ~Summer & fall 2009
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Lynne how unfortunate that your shovel broke in the place it did! I'm glad it at least lasted long enough for you to get the brug dug up.
I think it is downright lovely that your neighbors are enjoying their view of your pond. I know I would if I lived nearby. You guys have certainly outdone yourselves on this project!
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