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#280870 - 05/19/09 07:17 AM How do I keep my fountain algae free and safe for birds?
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Not too sure it this is where I should be posting this but... My fountain has green algae constantly growing on it. I keep cleaning the fountain and rocks but it regrows so quickly. I know it's probably because of the sun beating through the clear water, presenting perfect opportunity for the algae but I'd really like for the algae to be gone.

I was wondering if there was something I could put in the water to keep it algae free yet still safe for the birds. First I asked a plant nursery and they told me to get a Algaecide (sp?) from Walmart. There I could only find Fungicide in the Lawn & Garden department so I looked in the Pets department in Walmart. In the fish section I found a couple of algae products but it specifically stated not safe for humans or domesticated animals. Now I know the birds are not domesticated but figured it wouldn't be good for them either.

The birds love to drink from and bath in my fountain. I don't mind that at all and would like them to continue to use it. Is there anything that will keep my fountain algae free but safe for the birds?

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#280873 - 05/19/09 11:31 AM Re: How do I keep my fountain algae free and safe for birds? [Re: HyperFerret]
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Hi Hyperferret
I was thinking of getting a bird bath or a fountain so I was doing research on placement ,cleaning, mosquito's etc,.
What I found on algae build up is part placement/ part lack of enough oxygen and part cleaning.
A water source placed in full sun will build algae far faster then in the shade.
Cleaning all parts of a fountain or bird bath once a week with bleach(diluted) and apple cider vinegar will kill algae. placing a table spoon of applecider vinegar(per gallon of water) in the circulatory water will help prevent buildup once all parts are cleaned and will it not harm birds.
Placing water plants in your fountain will provide more oxygen .also placing a few copper penny's will help reduce algae, or a small piece of copper tubing, (pennies dated before 1982 are 95% copper. 1982 and later are 97.5% zinc. I think I would use copper pipe instead.) But I've read where People swear by the copper penny theory in their fountain.
So In a nut shell,,
1. direct sun= algae
2. Must regularly clean all parts
3.placement of water plants produce oxygen
4. place a piece of 100% or as close to 100% as possible piece of copper in it.
5. add one Tblspn of apple cider vinegar per gallon of water.

These are suggestions,, since I've not experienced it as yet,, Hopefully someone else will come along and give their hands on advice.
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#280897 - 05/19/09 05:18 PM Re: How do I keep my fountain algae free and safe for birds? [Re: angelblossom]
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If it was mine, I would remove the rocks so it could be just wiped down every few days. That is what I did in my bird bath. I would go wipe it down if needed.

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#281019 - 05/20/09 04:41 AM Re: How do I keep my fountain algae free and safe for birds? [Re: angelblossom]
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Hi AngelBlossom!

Yeah I figured the location I have it in isn't the best with it providing plenty of bright sunlight. However I really don't have any other location with shade. Besides that, I really really really wanted the fountain as a center piece for my garden which, of course, is in center of full sun. Lol, so I figured I'd fight the algae for the location. I shall win!!

Definitely going to try most of your suggestions.

* Location - Again, not really wanting to change that.
* Regular cleaning - I was cleaning it closer to once a month. I'll switch to once a week.
* Water plants - My fountain is far too small. Unless there's a plant that would survive in the cavity of the vase with no sun light available.
* Copper piece - Didn't think about that, I'll get that right away.
* Cider vinegar - I'll be doing that also.

Here's a clip I read on another site just before coming back to this post:

"Preventing algae build up

Algae grow fastest in bright light so it may be a good idea to position your fountain in the shade. After this changing the water in the fountain every month will help reduce algae growth. Cleaning with bleach, Listerine, lemon juice or vinegar can also help prevent the growth of algae or you could buy a commercial algaecide such as Fountec."


The only problem with the algaecides ...so far... they are claiming they are not safe for humans and pets which I'm assuming they are then not safe for the birds either. Over the phone, a lady from Home Depot said that adding a tiny bit of bleach to the water wouldn't hurt the birds. But I'd rather go with another option that would seem to be safer.

Just thought about something... My fountain recycles it's water as it pours back in through the slit. With the water "falling" back into the pool of water in the cavity ... would that not be adding oxygen to the water? Also on the copper, I don't think I'll find any copper pennies so I'll go with a piece of copper. Yep, sounds good.

I know removing the rocks from the fountain would make it easier to clean but that would take away from the look of the fountain, in my opinion. So I would like to keep those in there as well.

That's a long post ... I think I'll go now, lol.
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#281048 - 05/20/09 02:12 PM Re: How do I keep my fountain algae free and safe for birds? [Re: HyperFerret]
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wonder if using copper piping when building the fountain would help.
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#281113 - 05/20/09 10:58 PM Re: How do I keep my fountain algae free and safe for birds? [Re: Bestofour]
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Hey, that sounds like a pretty good idea Bestofour! I'll take a look for some that might work for me. *Heading out to Lowe's.*
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#281118 - 05/20/09 11:18 PM Re: How do I keep my fountain algae free and safe for birds? [Re: HyperFerret]
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your fountain is very pretty. Did you buy it at Lowes.
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#281119 - 05/20/09 11:19 PM Re: How do I keep my fountain algae free and safe for birds? [Re: Bestofour]
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is there some type of frog to the left of it?
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#287763 - 06/30/09 06:08 PM Re: How do I keep my fountain algae free and safe for birds? [Re: Bestofour]
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Cool, I have that exact fountain I bought on clearance last fall, I'm planning to use it on the covered patio. I have a black plastic round fountain that doesn't seem to get algae that bad, that might just be luck? It doesn't run full time, though, so oxygen levels would drop. On the occasions that we see mosquito larva, we run the fountain for part of each day for a few days, mosquitoes can't survive in running water, I don't know how that part works.
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#287991 - 07/02/09 12:15 AM Re: How do I keep my fountain algae free and safe for birds? [Re: peppereater]
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Theres commercial algea removers used for fish tanks at pet stores, check some of those. They are harmless enough for fish!!
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