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#208823 - 05/14/08 01:17 PM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: plants 'n pots]
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can cold germs really transport thru the computer????????
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#208828 - 05/14/08 02:50 PM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: JunieGirl]
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Carol - you are too funny!
For those of you who don't know what she means, we were IMing on Monday when she wasn't feeling well, and then Tuesday I came down with this cold - weird!

I tried to bake the cold out a bit on the deck this afternoon - it was 80 degrees there - always warmer than the real temperature, but I couldn't sit still. I did constantly hear a noise that sounded like a frog or toad! I hope he's still hanging around. I think he's an American toad, from what I saw in a google search. I need to find a site that has frog/toad sounds now.

Edit: OK - found a site quickly, and YES - that was him!!!
This time it sounded like it was coming from somewhere by the waterfall.
Hope he's getting comfy here.
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#208830 - 05/14/08 03:08 PM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: plants 'n pots]
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is he good for your pond?
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#208831 - 05/14/08 03:11 PM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: Bestofour]
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I really have no idea, Sheri, but he won't eat the fish, and I do love most critters, so long as they are not doing harm. I do imagine he'll eat some bugs for me?

Edit again...

Just found this interesting info, but while it does say they can secrete a poisonous substance which can irritae human skin, it also says they make good pets!!!

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This species can be difficult to identify. It never has a spotted belly and both cranial crests touch the parotoid glands. In the Eastern American toad these crests almost never touch the parotoid glands, which secrete bufotoxin, a poisonous substance. The poison the toad excretes is mild, but can irritate human skin.

American toads require a semi-permanent freshwater pond or pool for their early development. They also require dense patches of vegetation, for cover and hunting grounds. Given these two things and a supply of insects for food, American toads can live almost everywhere, ranging from forests to backyards. They are common in gardens and agricultural fields. During daylight hours they seek cover beneath porches, under boardwalks, flat stones, boards, logs, wood piles, or other cover. They are easy to find and make good pets. When cold weather comes, these toads dig backwards into their summer homes or may choose another site in which to hibernate


Edited by plants 'n pots (05/14/08 03:15 PM)
Edit Reason: found info about the toad
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#209239 - 05/16/08 06:40 AM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: plants 'n pots]
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Thought I'd update with a few pictures today.
I've been moving some sedums over to the hills of the pond, that have been growing in assorted gardens around the house. I'm hoping that they take off and grow into each other making a nice thick ground cover, so the soil stays put and doesn't keep raining down when it gets wet.

Here are both sides of the hill - the other plant you see there is a lambs ear on each side. I'm so disappointed though - the woman at the nursery told me it would get purple blooms, but I got a catalogue yesterday from another nursery with that same variety in it, and it says it's non-flowering. Oh, well...





And 1 of 2 pots of waterlillies starting to grow leaves out finally!
(the red dots you see is food for the 2 fish that are hopefully left - haven't seen them in days!)
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#209249 - 05/16/08 07:06 AM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: plants 'n pots]
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Cool Lynne, I like your plants! I always like seeing pictures. Hopefully your fish are just hiding somewhere.

Your pond is clearer than mine, I keep adding the algaefix and it just keeps getting greener and greener.
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#209287 - 05/16/08 11:45 AM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: plants 'n pots]
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Looking great Lynne.
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#209666 - 05/17/08 08:29 PM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: tamara]
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Thanks Loz and Tamara!

I asked Don to assemble the adirondack chair that I bought last summer, so I could see how much room it would take up in the pond garden - it also has a matching ottoman and side table. It actually takes up quite a bit of the space I marked out for the garden, but I don't really want to make it bigger and use up most of the flat land we have up by the house, before the yard slopes down away from the house.

Here is the chair and the pond...


And here is a close-up of the chair and ottoman, and also showing the area that Don started digging up for me today. Poor thing - his back has been hurting him a lot, but he keeps on going like the energizer bunny!



Now that I look at the pictures here, I think I might have to ask him to enlarge it, because I do have some larger sized plants to move into these gardens. Hmmmm...
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#209668 - 05/17/08 08:35 PM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: plants 'n pots]
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very nice chair--and beautiful pond and surrounding area---
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#209669 - 05/17/08 08:38 PM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: plants 'n pots]
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I'm liking the chair Lynne! and I'm soooooooo glad you made sure there was an area for sitting at the pond,, the plants are looking good too!,,
have you seen your fishes yet??
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#209674 - 05/17/08 09:20 PM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: angelblossom]
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Thanks Carol and Diane!

No sign of any fish yet! There are only 2 left in the pond - that is... if they are still in there! Don is going to try and vacuum it out again tomorrow - it got a lot of dirt in the when he had to turn the waterfall off to get the dead fish out of that skimmer. I'm hoping the weather cooperates and he can do that tomorrow. Then I will look for a basket again tomorrow and Monday.
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#209723 - 05/18/08 09:12 AM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: plants 'n pots]
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Nice chair Lynne--and of course it's blue!

Have you sat out there in it yet?

Nothing better than sitting by the pond when the weather is nice.
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#209728 - 05/18/08 10:59 AM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: loz]
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Thanks Loz! Haven't sat in it because we only placed it there to get an idea of the size of the garden. It's raining today, so the work that Don started earlier this morning out there has been put on hold.

Yep - blue chair! When I saw it I just had to have it.
By the way... I've been wearing the gardening gloves that you sent me, and I just realized that they were blue! Thanks again for sending them - they are being used well!
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#209763 - 05/18/08 02:12 PM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: plants 'n pots]
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I like those gloves because they aren't the really cheap ones---they have that rubber stuff so your hands get grip and don't get all wet, but they aren't really expensive either....I go through a lot of pairs in a year. And I'm glad you're using them.

It has rained her forever. Today is rained all morning, but now it's blue skies with lots of clouds and sunny(ish).

I'll take it!

Did you see your fish today?
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#209766 - 05/18/08 02:25 PM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: loz]
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Still noooooooooooo sight of fish!
And Don didn't get to vacuum the pond out today, so I don't know when I'll get some more and try again. I haven't found a basket yet either - didn't go out today like I was going to - this cold just will not go away!
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#209774 - 05/18/08 04:03 PM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: plants 'n pots]
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I'm sorry about your cold.

What is he using to vac it out with?
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#209828 - 05/18/08 07:19 PM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: loz]
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lynne, i was thinking, could don make a box out of hardware cloth to cover the drain? the squares in it should be about the right size and it is sturdy enough to hold it's shape.
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#209909 - 05/19/08 08:07 AM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: Jiffymouse]
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Interesting idea, Jiffy but it won't work, because whatever we use would have to be held down with a rock on top. You see... it would have to have a circumference larger than the drain so that the water could still flow through, without taking the fish along with it, and some way to hold it down.

Dare I say that one of the fish has been swimming near the surface all morning? I'm almost afraid to mention it, because the last time I saw one hanging around for a couple of days, he was the one sucked into the drain... I still do not see the other one, so I don't know if this one is lonely? I don't feel well enough to get to the pet store today, but hopefully will tomorrow.
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#209911 - 05/19/08 08:14 AM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: plants 'n pots]
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lynne, the hardware cloth i am talking about will hold its shape. it is a wire mesh on the weight order of chicken wire, but is more uniform and sturdier with much smaller holes. i think the holes are around 1/4-1/2 inch and are square. you can bend it to fit any particular shape, or you can nail it into a wooden frame. it is what lots of people use to make their compost sifters.

it isn't cloth at all, but that is what it is called. does that make sense? and, you might not even need the rock to hold it down as it won't float.
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#209912 - 05/19/08 08:23 AM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: Jiffymouse]
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I do understand what you are talking about, but it needs to be weighed down so the fish don't move it around the drain - there needs to be space between whatever we use and the edge of the drain. And the "lip" of the item cannot be too thick, because the space where the water flows through is close to the ground - did I explain that a little better?

Wood floats, yes? Can't nail anything into the liner... so whatever it will be, needs to be held down somehow. That's why I liked the plastic basket I found so much, but it just wasn't the right size.
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#209945 - 05/19/08 01:27 PM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: plants 'n pots]
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The good and the bad once again...

The good...
I found the other goldfish - alive!

The bad...
He was stuck in the regular filter again!
I saw the one fish hanging around outside the entrance to the skimmer and was afraid he might go in. I chased him away, and then looked in the filter, and sure enough, there was the other one.

Thank goodness he swam off when I put him back in the pond.
I still can see the first one out and about - he's mostly white with orange on his head and neck. Today is so raw and windy out, with rain on and off - wonder why he chose today to come out and show his face?
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#210036 - 05/19/08 08:20 PM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: plants 'n pots]
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Awww man, I hope you can figure out a way to keep them safe in the pond Lynne. I'm glad you found him though. Or maybe it's a her.
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#210043 - 05/20/08 03:50 AM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: loz]
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Well, last evening the white/orange one was just hanging around on the top of the pond, breathing, but not looking so good. He didn't swim away when all of us were around the pond, and this morning I don't see him. Haven't gone outside yet to look - it's too early, and raw out once again. Don't see the other one from up in the house either, but then again, I never did see that one swimming around the pond.

I read about putting chicken wire in front of the skimmer door, but that kinda defeats the purpose of the skimmer, you know? It would only allow the smallest of debris to get in, and then would get clogged up by the larger leaves, etc.

What to do... what to do...?


Edit: It is only 35 degrees out there today!!!
If I were a fishie in that cold water I wouldn't be showing my face either!
What is WRONG with this weather already???


Edited by plants 'n pots (05/20/08 04:26 AM)
Edit Reason: saw thermometer!
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#210065 - 05/20/08 04:50 AM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: plants 'n pots]
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I keep reading this topic and wishing for a pond as well but our cold weather wouldn't work out.

At least I get to enjoy yours.
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#210081 - 05/20/08 05:48 AM Re: Continuing my pond experience! [Re: tamara]
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At least YOU are enjoying it, Tamara! I'm frustrated with it for the time being!!! Once everything is working properly - soon I have to hope, then I'll be able to enjoy it more - right now it's one thing after another...

Spoke with a friend yesterday who lives about 45 minutes north of us - she's had a pond for about 5 years now - she has problem with Herons getting her fish. I feel badly for her, and hope that when we finally DO get some fish established here, that the Herons don't find their way also!
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