#189023 - 03/05/08 08:36 AM
Chile peppers and ph
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Habanero_Hero
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I am very interseted in growing chile peppers. Last year I tried and they didn't do too well. But it was a learning experience, and this year will hopefully be different. I have tested my soil and it is more alkaline than acidic. I know that peppers like a more acidic soil.
I have heard that pine needles and sulfur will drop the ph. I cannot seem to find a major retailer(lowes, home depot) that carries either item. Are there any more easily accessible substances that can accomplish my goal? And I live in the central Florida area, do any of you know a store that sells such items?
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#189024 - 03/05/08 08:48 AM
Re: Chile peppers and ph
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Bill
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#198750 - 04/03/08 02:57 PM
Re: Chile peppers and ph
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peppereater
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The jalapeno seeds might make some pretty hot peppers, but they'll still be in the range you're used to for jalapenos...Hot, yes, but remember that it's advertizing! There are hotter and milder jalapenos.
It's hard to find anything hotter than habaneros. They were considered the hottest pepper until recently.
]What you need to do is Google Thai hot chile (or hot pepper) or Naga pepper (or chile) and see what pops up. I believe the Naga Morich is the hottest pepper known right now...I can't imagine anything being hotter than the habanero, but it is. I got seed for one this year called Lemon Drop that seems to fit the description you gave, but they're yellow...supposed to be extremely hot.
Are you sure you're not looking for tabasco peppers or serrano? Those are hotter than jalapeno. Just a suggestion. I have seed for serrano if you need those...tabasco are about 1 and 1/2 inch, serrano about 2 1/2 inches, thin, green, hot.
Edited by peppereater (04/03/08 02:58 PM)
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#198810 - 04/03/08 07:28 PM
Re: Chile peppers and ph
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Bestofour
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#198844 - 04/04/08 05:20 AM
Re: Chile peppers and ph
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cricket
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I heard something about the less water you give a pepper the hotter it will be???
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#199041 - 04/05/08 08:09 AM
Re: Chile peppers and ph
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peppereater
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I heard something about the less water you give a pepper the hotter it will be???
I've heard that. Any kind of stress is supposed to make them hotter, but I haven't tried it. Some people say really poor soil, very little water, gives you the hottest peppers.
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#199058 - 04/05/08 10:23 AM
Re: Chile peppers and ph
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Bestofour
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The black pearl seeds I have say that the pepper is "Extremely Hot (above 30,000 Scoville Units)". Says it can be eaten but "is usually to hot." Peppereater are you familiar with scoville units? What's the hottest?
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#199127 - 04/05/08 05:07 PM
Re: Chile peppers and ph
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peppereater
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If memory serves, (it usually doesn't!), 30,000 is about what habanero is. They usually sell black pearl as an ornamental, probably because of the heat! I think all ornamental peppers are edible, if you like 'em hot. The thing about habaneros and some incredibly hot peppers is that they have a delicious flavor. I sometimes use 1/2 of a habanero in stir fry...it makes it really hot, but not so hot you can't eat it, and the flavor is great.
I'll offer seed for next year for the Lemon Drop pepper, after I grow it out. It will make you cry, but it is so tasty. Actually has a lemony taste...I've only had it as a dried pepper, ground up into powder.
Warning...when you process really hot peppers, you may need to wear kitchen gloves. If you remove seeds and the white, connective tissue, you remove a lot of the heat and get all the flavor.
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#199139 - 04/05/08 05:46 PM
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Bestofour
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you're right when you say they have great flavor. I've burned my lips almost to death before but had to admit the taste was worth it.
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#199145 - 04/05/08 06:19 PM
Re: Chile peppers and ph
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If memory serves, (it usually doesn't!), 30,000 is about what habanero is. They usually sell black pearl as an ornamental, probably because of the heat! I think all ornamental peppers are edible, if you like 'em hot. The thing about habaneros and some incredibly hot peppers is that they have a delicious flavor. I sometimes use 1/2 of a habanero in stir fry...it makes it really hot, but not so hot you can't eat it, and the flavor is great.
I'll offer seed for next year for the Lemon Drop pepper, after I grow it out. It will make you cry, but it is so tasty. Actually has a lemony taste...I've only had it as a dried pepper, ground up into powder.
Warning...when you process really hot peppers, you may need to wear kitchen gloves. If you remove seeds and the white, connective tissue, you remove a lot of the heat and get all the flavor.
when we made gramma's hot pepper relish, we all wore gloves and glasses (when you feed the food grinder, the juice will splatter) and she always put ornamentals in her relish both for the color and the heat. her relish would make you break out in a sweat just smelling it, but those (NOT ME) who like it swear by it.
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#199155 - 04/05/08 07:06 PM
Re: Chile peppers and ph
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peppereater
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Just holding the plants make my fingers burn.. I cant eat any hot peppers.. Some folks are more sensitive than others on that .. I am one of those.
Well now. Us peppereaters are not picky...sweet peppers are incredibly good, too, I often use them in almost everything, from roastbeef to salads to...just about everything. There is some flavor to hot peppers that yu can't get from anything else, but I don't crave the heat so much as the taste. I used to think that sweet banana peppers were blah, until I grew them myself...excellent!
My all time fave's are poblanos, the heat can vary, and anaheims or New Mexico green chile's. There is nothing better than a grilled green chile on a hamburger, or even ones from a can, unless it's a stuffed chile relleno with either poblano or anaheim/ new mex...(Ithink they're the same pepper, just different strains of one type.)
I am getting so hungry!
Oh yeah, as for salsa, I like it mild, mostly...easier to pile it on without the pain!
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#201419 - 04/14/08 10:10 AM
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Asha
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I just saw the other topic, 'Chili peppers slow to germinate'. Gosh, I haven't been following the rules! They need heat! I did keep mine near the radiator (zone 6 North NJ) but looks like they need more heat. Most often I just get through the problems right at the beginning and then it seems like a 'knowledge spurt'.
I flushed out one tray (72 pockets) with water to get rid of the excess seed starter and reseeded the various stuff: chillies, eggplant, cukes, basil, rosemary, cilantro (kothimeera), lavender, spinach
The few plants of beefsteak tomatoes & spinach (2 - 3") in the first tray are really leggy due to excess seed starter.
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