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#205625 - 04/30/08 03:59 PM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: loz]
plants 'n pots plants 'n pots Purl One Garden Helper Registered: 11/12/03 Posts: 22685 Loc: Rockland County, NY	Not so much color for this part of the gardens - the hilly part, but interesting leaves - not too tall either - spreading would be great! The rest of the flat areas around the ponds sides will have lots of orange - to compliment the fish! - and many of my perennials that I need to move because they've gotten too big for where they are. I have lots of coneflower babies to plant there, and a very large ornamental grass as well. I am going to put some hens and chicks on the hillside, but really would like some leafy plants to grow along side the rocks of the waterfall. _________________________ ...............
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#205661 - 04/30/08 05:27 PM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: loz]
dodge dodge Hot Rod Gardening Pro Registered: 10/06/05 Posts: 9390 Loc: Rural - Western Pennsylvania	Both your ponds look nice to me....... In the winter it was iffy.. Now they dress well with green grass .. An a Bench to gauck. Are they behind your houses? Now wasnt Jiffy doing one too? _________________________ PS... My horse isn't here, this is my Nitemare..
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#205794 - 05/01/08 05:41 AM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: dodge]
plants 'n pots plants 'n pots Purl One Garden Helper Registered: 11/12/03 Posts: 22685 Loc: Rockland County, NY	Thanks Dodge. Mine is behind just off to the side of the house - you can see it from the house and also from the driveway. I had to put it on that side of the house because I don't talk to the neighbors on the other side so I wouldn't have enjoyed it if I had to be closer to them, you know? _________________________ ...............
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#205800 - 05/01/08 06:02 AM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: plants 'n pots]
dodge dodge Hot Rod Gardening Pro Registered: 10/06/05 Posts: 9390 Loc: Rural - Western Pennsylvania	Good enough reason......LOL Lots of those up here too......folks. Nice job. Keep going. _________________________ PS... My horse isn't here, this is my Nitemare..
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#205823 - 05/01/08 08:59 AM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: dodge]
plants 'n pots plants 'n pots Purl One Garden Helper Registered: 11/12/03 Posts: 22685 Loc: Rockland County, NY	Anyone have suggestions for those plants? I'd like to start getting them in soon - thanks! _________________________ ...............
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#205824 - 05/01/08 09:13 AM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: plants 'n pots]
melcon6 melcon6 WildRedRidingHood Dream Gardener Registered: 09/13/02 Posts: 4660 Loc: Coastal Maine	Lynne, I would try artemesia 'silver mound', nice shape and looks good all summer. When it gets too big and floppy, I cut it all back and it grows again for the fall. Nice texture and shape...... You could pop in some different sedums, they just spread nicely over the rocks without being too invasive. If they are getting where you don't want them you simply pull them out and stick them in the ground where you do want them. This isn't a great pic but behind the salvia is what I am talking about, spilling over the rocks. It is pretty all the time, and flowers briefly in early summer a pretty yellow star shaped flower. I also have a reddish one, 'dragons blood' that has similar qualities. I'll get a pic of that tomorrow......... How about some lavender?? _________________________
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#205827 - 05/01/08 09:17 AM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: melcon6]
melcon6 melcon6 WildRedRidingHood Dream Gardener Registered: 09/13/02 Posts: 4660 Loc: Coastal Maine	Dianthus? _________________________
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#205841 - 05/01/08 11:14 AM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: plants 'n pots]
JunieGirl JunieGirl Frogger Gardening Pro Registered: 10/13/06 Posts: 9023 Loc: Worden, Illinois	Originally Posted By: plants 'n pots Not so much color for this part of the gardens - the hilly part, but interesting leaves - not too tall either - spreading would be great! The rest of the flat areas around the ponds sides will have lots of orange - to compliment the fish! - and many of my perennials that I need to move because they've gotten too big for where they are. I have lots of coneflower babies to plant there, and a very large ornamental grass as well. I am going to put some hens and chicks on the hillside, but really would like some leafy plants to grow along side the rocks of the waterfall. so I just read the part where youy want leafy green--so just look at the Artemisia-- or perhaps Alternanthera--"red Threads" don't choose the silver mounds--they are pretty in the spring but unless one is supposed to keep them trimmed short---they simply fall apart & look bad later in the summer after they get so tall. while they are short 'mounds' they are very pretty though. Catananche Caerulea Major (Love Plant) meduim in size--16 inches high---blue flower--duh-- Blooms late june to august--everlasting flowers divide in spring.full sun Baptisia: Purple smoke--false indigo : Tall 3 -4 feet--planrt 3-4 ft apart dusky purple lupine-like flowers over grey-green unique foliage.--it will take a few years to come to full size--but it it really pretty Greenery Artemisia : Valerie Finnis--bright silver form--medium in size--2 ft high--does is possible for it to have some yellow flowers.---full sun A. Silver brocade: short 6 inches high--wide 1" felty silver foliage with a hint of green coloring--Upright open form--- sun Sisyrinchium Angustifolium--(blue-eyed grass) 16 inches high--blue green narrowe leaves appear to be a grass--but is not a true grass. has clusters of blue flowers with yellow eyes--needs to be in a group for best effect.--blooms late spring.--sun One more: Euphoria: Chameleon 12-18 inches high--deep maroon foliage. yelllow flowers with outer brackets turning green--the more sun the deeper the foliage color Edited by JunieGirl (05/01/08 11:14 AM) _________________________ Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain!! Still Praying for Cindy
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#205852 - 05/01/08 11:27 AM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: JunieGirl]
Joclyn Joclyn Deep Purple Dream Gardener Registered: 07/18/05 Posts: 2099 Loc: philly	the artemisia would do what you're looking for...it's supposed to be hardy in zone 6, too. i don't think it is, though. i got some of that last year and it's not shown up and i don't think it will - grew really well last summer do not see a bit of it now. i got something else last year, too, and that's growing nicely now...pretty darkish green leaves and has white blooms going now. i think it reblooms, too. i have the name of it at home and will post later. coneflowers will rebloom if you dead-head, so they'll work for the spot. you could do shasta daisy too. and sedum is always good - looks good through the summer and blooms in fall. mums and asters, too. you could also mix in some strawflowers. they're annuals...worth the fuss though as it's a really pretty plant and will flower continuously. _________________________ zone 6b
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#205874 - 05/01/08 12:52 PM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: Joclyn]
plants 'n pots plants 'n pots Purl One Garden Helper Registered: 11/12/03 Posts: 22685 Loc: Rockland County, NY	Thanks for all the terrific suggestions everyone! I happen to agree with Carol about the silver mound, Mel - sorry! I do have some up by the mailbox and it has never looked good after it first comes back out in spring. It takes up a lot of space and is bare and ugly in most of the center of it - maybe it looks better where you are a bit cooler up in Maine? I'm going to look into all the other suggestions. I don't want coneflowers on the slope - I have many for down below along side the pond - mine grow to about 4 feet tall now! What I really want is a mid-size leafy plant for right next to the rocks. I do have sedum in there from last year - the one that flowers yellow like Mel suggested, and I have lots of the dragonsblood to transplant over there too. I guess what I'd like is something that looks fern-like, but I can't grow ferns there in the full blazing all day sun. It's a tough one, because most plants with leaves like that need shade. _________________________ ...............
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#205876 - 05/01/08 01:09 PM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: plants 'n pots]
plants 'n pots plants 'n pots Purl One Garden Helper Registered: 11/12/03 Posts: 22685 Loc: Rockland County, NY	Ok - just looked at a few of the ones that Carol suggested - the silvery ones won't be good there because they won't provide any contrast to the clay soil and water - but thanks for the suggestions. I LOVE the Sisyrinchium Angustifolium--(blue-eyed grass)- not necessarily for the spot I was talking about because I think it might be too small, but I really like the attributes and the fact that it's benefits are: Important nectar source for pollinators Provides good cover for small wildlife Cardinals, song sparrows, house finches and other songbirds eat the seed. Bright blue flowers with gold centers are good cut flowers Deer resistant plant that thrives in full sun All of them are bonuses - especially the deer resistant one! Now I just need to find some! Still looking at the others... You know what? I'm pretty sure I bought seeds for that plant 2 years ago, but it really didn't germinate well and I only got 2 tiny plants and neither returned. Hmmmm - guess I need to find plants that are already established! Edited by plants 'n pots (05/01/08 01:13 PM) Edit Reason: remembered something _________________________ ...............
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#205923 - 05/01/08 04:34 PM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: plants 'n pots]
loz loz Big Trouble Garden Helper Registered: 05/18/03 Posts: 40459 Loc: Beautiful Western Maryland...z...	I have a blue eyed grass Lynne, I bought it last year at Lowe's if you have one of them around you might want to check there..... _________________________ for Cindy to get better!!!!!
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#205940 - 05/01/08 06:19 PM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: loz]
plants 'n pots plants 'n pots Purl One Garden Helper Registered: 11/12/03 Posts: 22685 Loc: Rockland County, NY	Thanks Loz! There is one on the other side of the county, and they are building one about 15 minutes away too but that one won't be done for a long time - they just broke ground there. _________________________ ...............
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#205951 - 05/01/08 06:54 PM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: plants 'n pots]
loz loz Big Trouble Garden Helper Registered: 05/18/03 Posts: 40459 Loc: Beautiful Western Maryland...z...	It might be too early yet for there to be a good selection of things so far....but it's worth checking if you are over that way. I have this habit of picking up things I haven't seen before, then when I bring it home I have to squeeze it in...... I think I need another big flowerbed. _________________________ for Cindy to get better!!!!!
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#205964 - 05/01/08 07:26 PM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: loz]
JunieGirl JunieGirl Frogger Gardening Pro Registered: 10/13/06 Posts: 9023 Loc: Worden, Illinois	Originally Posted By: loz .... I think I need another big flowerbed. Loz, I think there is a lot of that going around--- _________________________ Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain!! Still Praying for Cindy
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#206006 - 05/01/08 09:18 PM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: JunieGirl]
melcon6 melcon6 WildRedRidingHood Dream Gardener Registered: 09/13/02 Posts: 4660 Loc: Coastal Maine	Okay, I know you don't think the silver mound can look good , but I'm telling you it's as hot here in the summer as you get. It's just that as soon as it starts looking bad, I cut it right down to about an inch from the ground. It comes right back and looks great right up until first frost. It takes about 5 minutes to cut it, low maintenance in my book. If you don't want it there, at least try this trick on the ones you have by the mailbox, K? That picture of mine was taken in September, not spring! Sorry about the nasty looking hosta in that picture though, bad slugs and also it is in full sun and probably shouldn't be. I should move it, LOL. About the blue-eyed grass, I have TONS of it. I love it , but of course the blooms don't last long enough for me. They open in the day and close at night too. So cloudy days are a bust for them. It spreads by seed quite a bit, but where the clumps are so small I don't mind it one bit. And it's easy to move them around where I want them. Maybe I could send you some Lynne. I've never sent plants before, I wonder????? _________________________
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#206122 - 05/02/08 12:25 PM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: melcon6]
plants 'n pots plants 'n pots Purl One Garden Helper Registered: 11/12/03 Posts: 22685 Loc: Rockland County, NY	Thanks for that info Mel - I will definitely try cutting back the one I have by the mailbox! I appreciate your offer to send some blue eyed grass - let's see if I can find some here first, k? So I've been searching a website that Carol sent me for perennials and I was wondering if anyone grows Gaillardia? Specifically the Fanfare one? I just LOVE the shape of the petals, and the colors are perfect for the oranges I'd like to accent the colors of my fish! There's also an Arizona Sun one that I liked there. Problem is that I'd have to order them as I'm sure I'll never find those specific ones around here, and the prices are not cheap! _________________________ ...............
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#206126 - 05/02/08 01:15 PM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: plants 'n pots]
dodge dodge Hot Rod Gardening Pro Registered: 10/06/05 Posts: 9390 Loc: Rural - Western Pennsylvania	I hhave a pkt of Dazzler Blanket flower Indian Blanket Gaillardia .if you would want some of that? I didnt plant any to know what I have . perennial. LMK barb _________________________ PS... My horse isn't here, this is my Nitemare..
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#206129 - 05/02/08 01:21 PM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: dodge]
plants 'n pots plants 'n pots Purl One Garden Helper Registered: 11/12/03 Posts: 22685 Loc: Rockland County, NY	Thanks so much, Dodge - very sweet of you to offer! I think I'd rather go with established plants for now - I'm pretty impatient to get this pond and gardens up and running already!!! _________________________ ...............
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#206131 - 05/02/08 01:25 PM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: plants 'n pots]
dodge dodge Hot Rod Gardening Pro Registered: 10/06/05 Posts: 9390 Loc: Rural - Western Pennsylvania	ok _________________________ PS... My horse isn't here, this is my Nitemare..
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#206306 - 05/03/08 07:11 AM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: dodge]
JunieGirl JunieGirl Frogger Gardening Pro Registered: 10/13/06 Posts: 9023 Loc: Worden, Illinois	good luck, Lynne--let me know how it goes--I will keep a look out myself. I will say, that is a beautiful flower--with all of the best of attributes. _________________________ Life isn't about how to survive the storm, but how to dance in the rain!! Still Praying for Cindy
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#206602 - 05/04/08 04:03 PM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: JunieGirl]
plants 'n pots plants 'n pots Purl One Garden Helper Registered: 11/12/03 Posts: 22685 Loc: Rockland County, NY	...TODAY IS THE DAY!!!... Don put the last dose of algae fix in the pond yesterday and it is absolutely clear down to the bottom! We put a thermometer in the water and it was about 62 degrees, so it was time to test it out with some feeder fish that I've had for about 3 years now. They've grown to a nice size in a tank indoors. He also placed the 1/2 pot that he cut last year for shelter for the fish in the bottom, and that is just where they first went when they didn't know what was going on in this HUGE new home. They have been seen since I put them in, at 3p.m. today. Here they are when I first put them in a bag to get aclimated to the water temperature outside. And floating in the pond in the bag... Coming out of the bag... FREEEEEEEEEEEE at last! Only thing is... about 1/2 hour later, Don found one of them in the skimmer pump basket! He was able to get it out safely, but now I'm afraid they will all end up in there. The white with orange head has been swimming awfully close to the opening - hopefully he's just exploring and won't get pulled in!!! I tried feeding them, but they swam away whenever they saw me. I put the food in anyway - hopefully they'll get used to seeing me and associate it with food. _________________________ ...............
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#206606 - 05/04/08 04:09 PM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: plants 'n pots]
dodge dodge Hot Rod Gardening Pro Registered: 10/06/05 Posts: 9390 Loc: Rural - Western Pennsylvania	So the big day arrived......heres hoping they love the pond and are ok......That was a clever demonstration. Thanks for showing us. _________________________ PS... My horse isn't here, this is my Nitemare..
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#206619 - 05/04/08 04:29 PM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: dodge]
loz loz Big Trouble Garden Helper Registered: 05/18/03 Posts: 40459 Loc: Beautiful Western Maryland...z...	Oooo, they're free-----swim into the ocean little fishies. That's what I told mine...they were used to being in a 10 gallon tank, so any pond is probably like the ocean. Lynne, could you put a piece of mesh over the skimmer opening? Just something to stop them from being pulled in there? Guess what? I ordered Algae Fix and it's shipped. I can't wait to get it going. So you can really see all the way down good all over the pond? I can't wait to get mine to clear up, I hope it works as well for me as it has for you. Are you having a little seat out there so you can sit and feed them and watch them? _________________________ for Cindy to get better!!!!!
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#206714 - 05/04/08 07:43 PM Re: Starting the Pond Finally ~3~ water is flowing!! [Re: loz]
plants 'n pots plants 'n pots Purl One Garden Helper Registered: 11/12/03 Posts: 22685 Loc: Rockland County, NY	Can't wait for you to get your fix, loz! Really - it works wonders, but is not cheap! Don used the entire large bottle and wants me to get more for weekly maintanence. I am definitely putting seating out there - the arbor bench will be moved to one side of the garden and the blue adirondack chair, ottoman, and table that I bought last year but is still unassembled will go on the other side. Can't wait for all that to get done too. I have to map out the garden area for Don and then he will start digging it up for me - I can't with the large rocks we have here. We cannot put any mesh by the skimmer - then it wouldn't be able to do it's job - getting rid of leaves, etc. that are in the pond! Loz - what do you feed your fish, and how often? _________________________ ...............
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